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Date:   Wed, 28 Jun 2017 00:07:09 +0300
From:   Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or@...il.com>
To:     "Tantilov, Emil S" <emil.s.tantilov@...el.com>
Cc:     "Kirsher, Jeffrey T" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "Greenwalt, Paul" <paul.greenwalt@...el.com>,
        Linux Netdev List <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "nhorman@...hat.com" <nhorman@...hat.com>,
        "sassmann@...hat.com" <sassmann@...hat.com>,
        "jogreene@...hat.com" <jogreene@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next v2 6/6] ixgbe: Add malicious driver detection support

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Tantilov, Emil S
<emil.s.tantilov@...el.com> wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org [mailto:netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org] On
>>Behalf Of Or Gerlitz
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:08 AM
>>To: Kirsher, Jeffrey T <jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com>
>>Cc: David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>; Greenwalt, Paul
>><paul.greenwalt@...el.com>; Linux Netdev List <netdev@...r.kernel.org>;
>>nhorman@...hat.com; sassmann@...hat.com; jogreene@...hat.com
>>Subject: Re: [net-next v2 6/6] ixgbe: Add malicious driver detection
>>support
>>
>>On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Jeff Kirsher
>><jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com> wrote:
>>> From: Paul Greenwalt <paul.greenwalt@...el.com>
>>>
>>> Add malicious driver detection (MDD) support for X550, X550em_a,
>>> and X550em_x devices.
>>>
>>> MDD is a hardware SR-IOV security feature which the driver enables by
>>> default, but can be controlled on|off by ethtool set-priv-flags
>>
>>wait, we have the trusted vf concept, which you implement
>>(ixgbe_ndo_set_vf_trust)
>>so you can enable by default for all vfs and disable it for trusted
>>ones, why create[]  an ixgbe special config knob? IMHO we should max all possible efforts to
>>avoid priv ethtool flags usage.
>
> The "trusted" option was added to allow use cases that were not possible in the
> default driver configuration for SRIOV (promiscuous mode, overriding the MAC).
> While these modes can lead to issues (performance with promisc) they can still
> be useful for certain configurations.
>
> MDD is a completely different type of protection that incorporates checks for
> queue context, Tx descriptors and out-of-bounds DMA/memory access that can
> disrupt the operation of the interfaces. You can read more about it in the X550
> datasheet (section 7.9.4.3 malicious Driver Detection):
> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/embedded/products/networking/ethernet-controller-x550-family-documentation.html
>
> For that reason we do not want to make it part of the "trusted" option.

you can extend the trusted option without breaking the UAPI, currently
it's one bit y/n, but you should have there at least seven more bits
to use.

> In addition MDD is a global setting and cannot be configured per-VF.

can you state more clearly why use think the right configuration knob
here is per driver ethtool private flag?

Or.

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