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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:45:18 -0600
From: "Patrick J. Kobly" <patrick@...ly.com>
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: @Stake pulls pin on Geer: Effect on research and publication

CNET is reporting that @Stake fired Dan Geer yesterday:

http://news.com.com/2100-1014_3-5082649.html

Over a recent CCIA report coauthored by him, and released Wednesday:

http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf

@Stake's comments - "The values and opinions of the report are not in
line with @Stake's views" explaining Geer's termination are concerning
for a company that claims "we must not be afraid to take things apart,
understand how they work, and share that information with the world." 
[http://www.atstake.com/research/]  

It should be noted that the CCIA report tries to examine the Microsoft
desktop monopoly, and its effect on the security of the Internet and
the digital world at large.  This is in direct line with @Stake's
stated research objectives.  The fact that the conclusions drawn may
not be the same as those drawn by other @Stake researchers does not
justify silencing this discussion.

@Stake and other security companies and organizations need to act now
to encourage discussion of root causes of insecurity on the net - even
if these causes are not fundamentally technical in nature.  It is, in
fact, these causes - the political and economic ones - that are the
most difficult ones to fix.  As a result, it is these factors that
must be brought into the public eye, exposed to more scrutiny, so that
we may address them.

What @Stake has done here is simply confirm to other security
researchers that the publication of unpopular research will directly
affect their pocketbooks.  @Stake has set researchers' financial
security and job security at odds with their professional ethics and
research standards.  Will the next researcher working at @Stake or
Symantec, or Security Focus hesitate to publish controversial research
because he is worried for his financial well-being?

PK
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