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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:51:18 +0200
From: Gadi Evron <>
To: Drew Copley <>
Subject: Re: W2K source "leaked"?

> As for your comments on zero day, I have some strong opinions on that:
> First, I recall two massive zero day exploits being used last year. One
> in IE being used by spammers and one in IIS.

Two out of how many?

> We should expect this trend to advance exponentially, I would think,
> just considering the amount of people coming online, the natural
> progression of security, the infiltration time required for the market
> to meet the demand and such other natural factors. 

That's the future, not the present. :)

> Read: organized crime, corrupt governments and corporations and such...
> have yet to really understand the unorthodox ways of bugfinding or the
> power of the field. But that they will... That is simply a force of
> nature. It is inevitable. 

Why would organized crime (etc.) chose to make such exploits in their 
arsenal public?

> We should prepare for this now.
> But, like most events similar to this in history, we won't. Or, we won't
> do a very good job of it. Maybe others are more optimistic.

Of course we will, after-the-fact. :)

	Gadi Evron.

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