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Message-ID: <20041122201239.X15317@ubzr.zsa.bet>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:14:30 -0600 (CST)
From: "J.A. Terranson" <measl@....org>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: University Researchers Challenge Bush Win In
 Florida



On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, bkfsec wrote:

> Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
> > I disagree.  Until the research is credible and vetted, investigating
> > is premature.  Many people don't seem to understand, investigating
> > supposed discrepancies in the vote costs millions of dollars.  The
> > recount in Ohio will cost the state $1.5 million.  That's money that
> > could pay for other things.  So you don't run off on wild goose chases
> > just because some "researcher" says, "Oooooo, look at this.  This
> > looks really unusual."
> >
> You do realize that some people consider investigation and research to
> be connected and that, if there is any implication of a problem (whether
> the all-knowing creationist agrees or not) that that problem should be
> "looked into" (does that better suit your vocabulary?)....
>
> So, what you're really saying is that you're not willing to back an
> investigation until an investigation is done which shows that an
> investigation is warranted, correct?
>
> Well, of course you'd believe that!  It's politically expediant for you.  :)

It also highlights a disturbing circular reasoning.  Considering that Paul
is TEACHING at a supposedly "respected" *university*, we shold all be very
afraid of our nations schools.

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@....org
0xBD4A95BF

 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

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