bugtraq - RE: Re: Your One-Stop Site For Sony Lawsuit Info

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Message-ID: <78744869705CEF41A32C103C5C04F2200163A803@phxexc1.dswa.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:20:33 -0700
From: "Christopher Carpenter" <ccarpenter@...a.net>
To: <jasonc@...ence.org>,
	"Paul Schmehl" <pauls@...allas.edu>
Cc: intertwingled@...st.net, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com,
	full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: RE: Re: Your One-Stop Site For Sony Lawsuit Info

Hi Jason, Paul:

While Jason's point may _currently_ be valid in reference to
programmers, legislation like Sarbanes-Oxley is reiterating individual
accountability for auditors and executives.  We may see a trickle-down
effect to lower level management and/or project managers if other
corporations infringe on personal liberties or "pull a Sony."

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jason
Coombs
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:13 PM
To: Paul Schmehl
Cc: intertwingled@...st.net; bugtraq@...urityfocus.com;
full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Your One-Stop Site For Sony Lawsuit
Info

Paul Schmehl wrote:
> So, all those corporate execs walked out of the court house in
handcuffs 
> weren't really going to jail?

There's a huge difference between a financial crime committed by an 
individual and a crime committed by a corporation.

Let me know if the distinction confuses you and we'll discuss this more 
privately. You are aware that not every action of a person employed by a

corporation is considered an action of the individual, right?

No individual programmer who writes spyware will ever be prosecuted for 
doing his or her job on behalf of a corporation. No exec who instructs 
said programmer to author said spyware will ever have personal criminal 
liability for giving said instruction.

If you don't like the world you live in, change it or get out.

Regards,

Jason Coombs
jasonc@...ence.org
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