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From: core at bokeoa.com (Charles 'core' Stevenson)
Subject: On sf sell out

Georgi,

Hi I've always admired your work :) Especially the AIX shellcode.. 
anyways I just thought I would write you to inform you of a small time 
for exploit developers only mailing list. So far we have about 10 well 
reputed exploit developers on our list. And that's it! No security 
consultants, pen-testers, script kiddies... the URL is here. excuse the 
pop-up; I've found friendly hosting for the list but not the page yet :)

http://www.crosswinds.net/~zerodaydigest/

Please take a look at the charter. Anyways, we'd all love to benefit 
from your wide range of exploit development expertise!

best regards,
core

Georgi Guninski wrote:
> Here are my 2 stotinki on Securityfocus's sell out.
> 
> I don't mind aleph1 & co. taking $75M. What I am concerned what price we
> shall pay for it. ($75M is too much for collecting other people's 0days,
> IMHO)
> 
> What scares me about Securityfocus is that since the beginning 2002
> they started not posting some of my posts to bugtraq but seem to post
> "politically correct" messages.
> 
> They went so far to not post a real vulnerability  [1](later indirectly 
> confirmed by Microsoft in a bulletin, not fixed yet).
> Then I decided - no 0days for securityfocus and started posting only
> comments and opinions, mainly on the topic of full disclosure.
> Most of them didn't get to the list, though the opposite of my opinions 
> were
> posted.
> 
> Hope they don't turn into mainstream media outlet and use the power of
> moderation for labelling people and ideas as good and bad in their user
> base.
> 
> Note: I don't mean to whine for them moderating me down, it is their right
> to do whatever they want with their mailing lists, but think this should be
> publicly known.
> 
> [1] http://www.guninski.com/signedactivex.html (also check ver. 2.0)
> 
> Georgi Guninski
> http://www.guninski.com
> 
> 
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