full-disclosure - David Ahmad (securityfocus/symantec) exposed

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Message-ID: <NMRC.666.6.66.0208251710590.23036-100000@www.nmrc.org>
From: hellnbak at nmrc.org (hellNbak)
Subject: David Ahmad (securityfocus/symantec) exposed

If it is truly well known, then how about some actual proof. That is all I
am asking.  I mean, especially on this list, how can anyone trust what
comes from an anonymous email account with no evidence.

On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 rfp_the_ripper@...hmail.com wrote:

> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:22:14 -0700
> From: rfp_the_ripper@...hmail.com
> Reply-To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] David Ahmad (securityfocus/symantec)
>     exposed
>
>
> It's a pretty well known fact, inasmuch as Elias Levy of
> securityfocus = aleph1 (= r00t, which was also a criminal
> group) and Michael  Schiffman of @stake = route (= r00t,
> guild -- both criminal groups that any scene savvy person
> knows committed felonies back in the day).
>
>
>
> >Is there any real proof of this or is it nothing but a bunch of
> >
> >misinformation directed at the big bad evil corporation?
> >
> >Seriously, where is the proof?
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Defender Defender wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:23:58 +0000
> >> From: Defender Defender <defender242@...mail.com>
> >> Reply-To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> >> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] David Ahmad (securityfocus/sym
> >antec)
> >>     exposed
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I was part of several hacker and cracker groups before enter
> >ing the
> >> >white-hat side. So what?
> >> >
> >>
> >> So it depends much on what you do. You could have the belief
> >that some
> >> people are worth being hacked, and some others secure, of cou
> >rse.
> >>
> >> But if you were moderator of bugtraq, a "full-disclosure" mai
> >ling list, it
> >> would obviously just be another proof that all you want is mo
> >re hacked
> >> boxes, and more work and $$$.
> >>
> >> That would be a total lack of integrity.
> >>
> >> _____________________________________________________________
> >____
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> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> >> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
> >
> >>
> >
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> >
> >"I don't intend to offend, I offend with my intent"
> >
> >hellNbak@...c.org
> >http://www.nmrc.org/~hellnbak
> >
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> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
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> >
>
>
>
>
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> _______________________________________________
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>

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