full-disclosure - FW: FEEDBACK: Testing Microsoft and the DMCA

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Message-ID: <871080DEC5874D41B4E3AFC5C400611ECFCF19@UTDEVS02.campus.ad.utdallas.edu>
From: pauls at utdallas.edu (Schmehl, Paul L)
Subject: FW: FEEDBACK: Testing Microsoft and the DMCA 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 11:19 PM
> To: Charles Sprickman
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] FW: FEEDBACK: Testing 
> Microsoft and the DMCA 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:00:56 EDT, Charles Sprickman said:
> > On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> > 
> > > And that was just for the DMCA.  Things are even worse under the 
> > > Patriot Act - we may *never* find out why Mike Hawash has been 
> > > sitting in solitary confinement for a month, uncharged with 
> > > anything, and not allowed to contact a lawyer.
> > 
> > Not doubting you or anything, but can you provide us with some more 
> > information?
> 
> The Mike Hawash situation: http://news.com.com/2010-1071-996625.html

According to this article: 1) He has defense attorneys and 2) a federal
judge has ruled that he is being lawfully detained.  Since those are the
only facts we have, it's not possible to make a judgment about whether
his detention is some sort of violation of the constitution or not.
Given that, I think it's premature to make any judgments at all about
his situation.  Just because *you* think it's wrong, doesn't make it
wrong.

Besides, if it turns out that his rights were violated, he has every
right to sue the government and obtain compensation for unlawful
imprisonment.
> 
> The ACLU on the Patriot Act: 
> http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cf> m?ID=12126&c=207
> 
I have a clear bias against the ACLU, so I'll refrain from commenting on
this.

Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/