full-disclosure - RE: power, corruption and lies

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Message-ID: <000901c30dcc$b3e64d10$0201a8c0@fosi>
From: steve.wray at paradise.net.nz (Steve Wray)
Subject: RE: power, corruption and lies

You know, the worse part is that there will be
people reading this list thinking "Whats this got
to do with 'full disclosure'? Whats this got to
do with security?"

Its totally relevent; security considerations
and vulnerabilities start WELL before a computer
system is connected to the internet. Well before
its powered up for the first time. Even before
the computers have their software and OS installed.

It starts with decisions taken by executives, managers
or 'general public' who go out and buy a computer
at some computer mega-mart complete with free years worth
of AOL account.

The mind set of these sorts of people is *key* to establishing
security of the internet.

Theres no point closing the stable door (applying patches)
after the horse has bolted (management decided to buy SCO UnixWare,
for example).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ron DuFresne
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2003 4:01 a.m.
> To: yossarian
> Cc: jasonc@...ence.org; Steve Wray; full-disclosure@...sys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] RE: power, corruption and lies
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You have to understand, UPPER Management, once it exists, cannot be
> destroyed except by death or calamity.  Thus while your CEO might well
> drive your corporation into banruptcy, rest assured that a 
> few weeks and

[huge great snip, this is archived somewhere anyway]