Message-ID: <20030604194109.26e847c6.michaelr@cisco.com>
From: michaelr at cisco.com (Michael Reilly)
Subject: AW: Zone Alarm

If I understand you correctly I think you mean, for example, to block Outlook/Netscape/Other_mail_client from fetching images and sending cookies often found in SPAM by blocking any outgoing access except to smtp/pop/imap on the server but letting a web browser use http?

The SW firewall can be useful for this but wouldn't it be better to use a well behaved application instead?

michael
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:37:50 +0200
"Michael Linke" <ml@...ract.org> wrote:

> There is one big benefit, which no hardware router can bring you. Zone alarm
> and other Windows based Software Firewalls can block network access for
> programs. A HW firewall can only block a whole machine but can't denied
> access for one software and allow access for another software on the same
> machine. 
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> > Von: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com [mailto:full-disclosure-
> > admin@...ts.netsys.com] Im Auftrag von Jason
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Juni 2003 20:53
> > An: morning_wood
> > Cc: Ben Tyson-Norrman; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
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> > Unfortunately the $40 'hardware' devices are not either.
> > 
> > Please reference the excellent work by Core
> > http://www1.corest.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=276&idxseccion=10
> > 
> > and the _much_ more expensive 'hardware' devices are just as prone
> > 
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/pix-multiple-vuln-pub.shtml
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/pixfirewall-authen-flood-pub.shtml
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/PIXfirewallSMTPfilter-regression-
> > pub.shtml
> > ...
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/advisory.html
> > 
> > For a personal solution Zone Alarm is quite possibly more adequate and
> > appropriate.
> > 
> > morning_wood wrote:
> > 
> > >Zone Alarmbuy a $40 hardware router. Software firewalls are not a
> > security solution IMHO.
> > >
> > >morning_wood
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > >  From: Ben Tyson-Norrman
> > >  To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > >  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:53 AM
> > >  Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Zone Alarm
> > >
> > >
> > >  I'm not sure I can ask this question without derision, but here goes...
> > >
> > >  Zone Alarm, is it really as crap as everyone makes out.... or is the
> > usual posturing by ill-informed...?
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