full-disclosure - [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

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From: se_cur_ity at hotmail.com (morning_wood)
Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

> I'd rather have an inexperienced user behind a PFW any day than expect
> them to understand and *properly* implement NAT *and* a firewall.  I'd
> rather have them introduced to the concept of security in a way that
> they understand than to shove it down their throats with technology they
> don't comprehend and can't possibly use correctly.

Todays personal style routers require nothing more than the physical
connections
and dhcp ( default by most out of the box OS'es ) and nearly forget about,
the only education is
to explain that thier ip is not 192.168.blabla.bla..  theres no need to "
expect them to understand and *properly* implement NAT *and* a firewall" .I
still stand by a 40$ personal router utilizing NAT.
Theres nowhere for the packets to go.. and please, when was the last time
anyone here had to flash a personal style router / switch
within the past 2 years... dont go esoteric on us now..

moreNINwood