From: rod at devnull.ms (rod@...null.ms)
Subject: Please Vote Today

amen.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Zach Neuf
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:08 AM
To: Myers, Marvin
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Please Vote Today
Importance: Low


Oi'  I 2nd that 100%!  I learn from everything on this list...  you
egotistical elitists Jak's need to open you minds... right?  I mean
that's what the basis of FD is....  Open info!  I have learned more from
this list on theory, application, approach, execution, and hell
yesterday was a lesson in 2nd gen morality.............. Than any other
source of info recently.... Or ever for that matter...  I mean think
about how many people are listening out there....  yeah some people are
full of it... and everything isn't right all the time...  but the world
is not a perfect place... drop your ego and open your f$#%k'n eye's and
see...  if you don't like the view find a different perspective..."  and
holy shit you might have to delete some mail to Eh?

Word>>...woods the man...  Piss off  Player Haters!

Thnx,
Pill Head






-----Original Message-----
From: Myers, Marvin [mailto:MRMyers@...eon.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:12 AM
To: morning_wood; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; 0day
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Please Vote Today

This is pure Bull$hit. Don't agree with him, filter his e-mails. If the
list  becomes censored, I urge all list members who have ever had the
balls to have an original ideal to unsubscribe. What next. Who next. I
believe that the majority of this list doesn't really mind the rantings
of the wood. Hell that's the only way I have to entertain myself at this
starch collar dungeon where I work. Kick off the wood and you can send
me along with him. I can not believe that someone who would join an
unmoderated list would have the gall to try to censor. Don't open your
eyes, you are sure to see nothing but colon, because you surely have
your head where the sun does not shine.

-----Original Message-----
From: morning_wood [mailto:se_cur_ity@...mail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:38 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; 0day
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Please Vote Today


 some famous white hat's letter to Full Disclosure..

-------------------- snippy -------------------------------------

Len: It is my belief that list members who repeatedly post ridicule that
could not possibly be of any use for on-topic readers -- particularly
those who post such things without any other contributions -- should at
least have their right to post permanently stripped, if they are allowed
to remain subscribers at all.  It is also my belief that Donnie Werner's
recent posts fit squarely into this catergory.  Not only has Donnie
Werner continued to waste the effort of list maintainers and subscribers
with non-contributory e-mail, but he has also been extremely
un-professional in the few cases where he has provided anything worth
anyone's time.  For this reason, sorting through Donnie Werner's junk
mail is not worth my time, or the time wasted of anyone else on this
list.  It is with the highest regard for Full-Disclosure as a place of
promise in the continuing evolution of information security, that I must
urge the removal of Donnie Werner, as it is in the best interest of all
on the list, and the future of the list itself.

---------------- end snippy ---------------------------------------

Ladies and Gentleman... I am being systematicly blackballed,
If I coment on one white hat, I get threats from two more..

--------------- snippy --------------------------------------------

"I've created a poll to address this "Morning Wood" issue. Quite a few
people have been contacting us in regards to his behaviour on the list
and needless to say no small number of people have left the list because
of recent activity.

http://www.netsys.com/cgi-bin/poll?pn=7

We'll wait a week before taking any action.

Note: We can moderate individuals who are problematic but we are loath
to actually remove someone from the list because there is always hope
for improvement. I am optimistic that if people can be made aware of
their anti-social behaviour they often change for the better. We're all
human and we've all got our faults!

Len

------------------- snippy ------------------------------

more...

----------------- snippy --------------------------------

>> We would like to ask everyone who feels the need to
>> respond with one line comments to someone elses
>> inflammtory message to try to restrain themselves
>> because you are becoming part of the problem.
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Len
>>
>
>Exactly who is "we" ?

The people who own this list. You know, the ones paying money out of
their pocket to host it.

Say, why don't you fuck off before you get hurt. You're starting to
irritate me with your continous bullshit postings. Onviously this is the
first time you've subscribed to a mailing list and you're utterly
intrigued with seeing your own messages get post.

I say again why don't you fuck off before you get hurt!
------------------------- snippy---------------------------

well isnt that lovely...

Donnie Werner


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