full-disclosure - JAP back doored

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Message-ID: <3F45C525.3030307@gaussvip.com>
From: felix.roennebeck at gaussvip.com (felix.roennebeck@...ssvip.com)
Subject: JAP back doored

Drew Copley wrote:

>Why is the state of Germany trojanizing applications which may be run by
>anyone on the planet? 
>
because this application was used to commit a bad crime - child pornography.

>How is it they believe they have a right to trojanize someone outside of
>Germany?
>
They don't. They care about a system that is located in Germany and that 
is used to commit a crime. Any other country would do that - especially 
the US..

> This is blatantly illegal in just about every country outside of
>Germany.  Literally.
>
I doubt that. Do you have any precise example ? I do:

- 5 big european airlines had to open theyr booking systems to US 
customs. They are able to see any data in that system - even information 
about for example bank accounts and even if they have never been to the US.
- Britain and the US are runnung a System called Echelon that is trying 
to listen to _any_ communication on the continent

This are two example for systems beeing trojanized. And I can't remeber 
a US representative saying "Hey, European citizens: Be careful where you 
fly and who you call. We are watching you."

And I think there are hundreds of more examples that allow to 
finger-point in one direction or the other. Every country tries to take 
care of its interests - and that is not allways nice to watch.

>Are they trying to set a precedent for other countries to follow?
>
I don't think that the judge thought about that. But who knows ?

>Or, do they believe they are superior to other countries, and they may
>invade at will?
>
I would be _very_ careful with statements like this. We had this 
superior thing in the 1930/40s and I think we are pretty much over it.


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Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen / with kind regards


Felix Roennebeck

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