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Message-ID: <200309112306.h8BN6sG17396@comet.hrhost.net>
From: andy at digitalindustry.org (Andy Wood)
Subject: Computer Sabotage by Microsoft

	You will not get anywhere with this argument.  Font Hack as a
feature?  Is the RPC DCOM vulnerability and the hundreds of other MS
vulnerabilities features of MS products?  Just because MS hires newbie
programms right outta school so the can teach then "Their" way to program
doesn't mean they forfeit their right to mod their code.....and code ain't
hardware.

	I hate MS just about as much as anybody...and get over on 'em if'n
you can.  But you're gonna fall flat without a better argument.  You
mistakenly paid for MS 'Technology'  I wont make that mistake.  Win95
Upgrade was my last purchase.

	If you want it look at it another way:  You can boost the Subaru
WRX's turbo to over 17lbs by removing a hose.....but do you think that
they'll warranty it if you break it (and you will)?  But isn?t it your right
to disconnect that hose?  You can, but you will have used it outside of the
designed specifications.  Hypothetically now, if you brought it in for
regular maintenance and they silently corrected that 'Feature' would they
give you your money back.  They'd probably laugh at you!  Just like MS will.


	Andy


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[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Esser
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:59 PM
To: Rainer Gerhards
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com

Hello,

> I can understand you frustration of no linux & cracked games anymore, 
> but "written permission"... Well, well...

You misunderstand me completely beside the fact that you accuse me of
creating copies of games. I am the person who cracked the xbox open via the
font hack and I am not frustrated at all, because I can revert the illegal
changes of MS to MY hardware anytime. It is just that MS has no fucking
right to autoupdate my box. No matter if I am a LIVE customer or not. They
can terminate my license and pay me my money back if the update is really
needed, which it is not.

> As you said "it *finally* happened" ;) If you purchase that blackbox 
> design, you get what you pay for. Microsoft never said it did these 
> things that you try to do. While there are good points to blame them, 
> I think this time it is not. It is simply doing what it was supposed to...

There is NOT a single word in the whole EULA and documentation of the XBOX
that it will not execute nonsigned software. I found a way to work around
this defect. Microsoft destroyed that way, they killed one of the features
(again... nowhere in the docu is written that this is NOT one of the
features) So I want my money back. I payed for a black box with specific
features the font hack was one of the features. If they kill this feature,
they kill my property and have to pay for it.

Yours,
Stefan Esser

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