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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0309161021310.28865-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: new ssh exploit?

also is ssh enabled with fallback to ssh1?  ssh2 being far more secure and
the supported standard.  ssh1 has had a number of sploits pushed about
over the past few years, and the only know sploit of ssh2 was it's ability
to fallback to ssh1, at least that I'm aware of, and this might well have
been resolved in the privsep code in newer ssh deamons as Adam was
referencing.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Adam Shostack wrote:

> Is privsep on in any of these systems?
>
> Do the failed attempts show up in your logs?
>
> And naturally, do you have some tcpdumps?
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 01:48:34PM -0400, christopher neitzert wrote:
> | More on this;
> |
> | The systems in question are FreeBSD, RedHat, Gentoo, and Debian all
> | running the latest versions of OpenSSH.
> |
> | The attack makes an enormous amount of ssh connections and attempts
> | various offsets until it finds one that works permitting root login.
> |
> | I have received numerous messages from folks requesting anonymity or
> | direct-off-list-reply confirming this exploit;
> |
> | The suggestions I have heard are:
> |
> | Turn off SSH and
> |
> | 1. upgrade to lsh.
> |
> | or
> |
> | 2. add explicit rules to your edge devices allowing ssh from only-known
> | hosts.
> |
> | or
> |
> | 3. put ssh behind a VPN on RFC-1918 space.
> |
> | thanks.
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 12:02, christopher neitzert wrote:
> | > Does anyone know of or have source related to a new, and unpublished ssh
> | > exploit?  An ISP I work with has filtered all SSH connections due to
> | > several root level incidents involving ssh. Any information is
> | > appreciated.
> | >
> | >
> | --
> | Christopher Neitzert - GPG Key ID: 7DCC491B
>
>
>
> --
> "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
> 					               -Hume
>
>
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