Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0310062047510.7316-100000@greeves.mfn.org>
From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson)
Subject: Bush Bashing (use to be Has Verisign  time
 arrived ?)

Thank you for a well reasoned reply.  Bravo!


On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, El Guille wrote:

> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:58:55 -0300
> From: El Guille <guille7@...tevideo.com.uy>
> To: Vincent <pros-n-cons@....rr.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Bush Bashing (use to be Has Verisign  time
>     arrived ?)
> 
> 
> >
> >Well just for the sake of being honest, the US gets 55% of its oil 
> >domesticaly.[1]
> >Followed by 20% Saudi and the rest Venezuela, yadda, yadda.
> >It's the EU that buys a huge chunk from Iraq. (just look how much they're 
> >owed now)
> >We get about 3-5% from Iraq and have for 10 years. If thier oil is our 
> >lifeblood
> >mind explaining to me why we had the best economy in the history of our 
> >country
> >while not paying a dime to Iraq for one bucket of oil? BTW that 3-5% we 
> >got from
> >Iraq was because of the oil for food program, we didn't 'buy' any. Cause 
> >there were
> >sanctions only a few of us decided to follow.
> >
> >[1].. It's been a while since I researched this. I can't remember if 
> >'domestically'
> >means Mexico and Canada included.(?)
> 
> Deceived by your ignorance I may say.
> Price of oil before war was 15 bucks de barrel
> With the gulf war the price raise up to 42 bucks x barrel, generating an 
> extra 60 thousand millon dollars.
> In the arab countries the fifty-fifty law says 50% goes to the country and 
> 50% goes to the company in control.
> 
> So you got 30.000.000 dollars for the oil companies.
> 
> And if your ignorance does not play against you again, you should know that 
> in middle east, the extraction and oil commerce ruled by the "7 sisters" 
> (shell,tamoil,ello.) all of those americans, 5 of each owned by the 
> american goverment.
> 
> So of those 30, 21 for the US gov. 9 for private american companies.
> 
> And guess what, they wanted to liberate kuwait!?!?! and the war in 
> afganistan was anti-terrorism, not to instaurate a mockery goverment that 
> allows the construction of 2500km oleoduct(instead of building a 5500km one 
> taxed to death by the crossed countries)
> 
> And you also didn't know bush administration was before war at the edge of 
> breaking with it's biggest oil provider, that is saudi arabia? And they 
> weren't of course looking for an alternative, they were instaurating 
> democracy in Irak??
> Now of course with the new regime, instaurated by the US and under it's 
> control, the iraki people economical desires will prevail? sure...
> 
> Why Irak?
> - The poberty caused by the block causes 300.000 childs to starve to death 
> every year.(how many died in 11/9?)
> - Easy justification, look at you believing in a destroyed country having WMD
> - No protection for Irak from any of the powerfull countries.
> 
> Regards,
> and you should be reading a little more before opening your mouth.
> 
> PS and after answering with "we are protecting the world" please read 
> something about the dictarorial regimes imposed by the US in Latin America 
> in the last 30 years, just to name a few, El Salvador, Chile, Nicaragua, 
> Republica Dominicana, Paraguay, and the list goes on. Those regimes 
> instaurated by YOUR country ended with thousands dead and tortured, the 
> same thing you fight against now? that is hypocrite.
> PS2 ask yourself again why US gets attacked, I don't see planes crashing on 
> switzerland buildings, I don't see mexico embassy beign bombed in Africa, I 
> don't see portuguese citizens being killed. What if, only if , by any 
> chance, those "crazy muslims terrorists" are just paying back?. Just say 
> thanks george.
> 
> AND FOR THE SAKE OF BEIGN HONEST:
> 
> 
> - Dwight Eisenhower said in 1953 that "preventive war" was and Adolf Hitler 
> invention, stated: I wouldn't take seriously anyone proposing something 
> like that.
> - USA is the country that builds and sells more weapons in the world. Is 
> also, the only nation that has thrown atomic bombs against civil 
> population. And it's always, by tradition, in war with someone.
> - Irak does not obey UN regulations, does USA obeys? Was the war in Irak a 
> dream?
> - Irak broke 17 UN regulations, Israel 64, will US bomb it's more faithfull 
> country?
> - Who sell Sadam Hussein the cepas to build it's gas to kill the kurdos? 
> Why Bush is not showing the bills?
> - In name of God I've seen many post here, why did God give different 
> orders to Bush and to the Pope on Rome?
> - There were no iraki people on the planes on 9/11, almost all of them were 
> from saudi arabia, also from saudi arabia is Osama Bin Laden. Ahhh of 
> course, saudi arabia the best US client, we better get our hands on Irak.
> 
> 
> 
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