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Message-ID: <200310070042.12024.steve@stevesworld.hopto.org> From: steve at stevesworld.hopto.org (Stephen Clowater) Subject: Bush Bashing (use to be Has Verisign time arrived ?) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It has been commented by len, and by others on the list that this is not appropriate for a security mailng list. Could we please move this off list? On October 6, 2003 11:48 pm, Vincent wrote: > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:58:55 -0300 > > El Guille <guille7@...tevideo.com.uy> wrote: > > >Well just for the sake of being honest, the US gets 55% of its oil > > >domesticaly.[1] > > >Followed by 20% Saudi and the rest Venezuela, yadda, yadda. > > >It's the EU that buys a huge chunk from Iraq. (just look how much > > > they're owed now) > > >We get about 3-5% from Iraq and have for 10 years. If thier oil is our > > >lifeblood > > >mind explaining to me why we had the best economy in the history of our > > >country > > >while not paying a dime to Iraq for one bucket of oil? BTW that 3-5% we > > >got from > > >Iraq was because of the oil for food program, we didn't 'buy' any. Cause > > >there were > > >sanctions only a few of us decided to follow. > > > > > >[1].. It's been a while since I researched this. I can't remember if > > >'domestically' > > >means Mexico and Canada included.(?) > > > > Deceived by your ignorance I may say. > > Price of oil before war was 15 bucks de barrel > > With the gulf war the price raise up to 42 bucks x barrel, generating an > > extra 60 thousand millon dollars. > > Wrong. > The only time it ever went over $40 was in 1980-83 cause of the > Iran/Iraq war but thank you for playing. > http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm (or just type in 'crude oil prices history' > in google and follow the first link. > in '90 it was $24 then the war made it _DROP_ to $21 in 1991! > > The first statement you made can't be ignorance it is so far off I'm > leaning towards you making a completely blatant lie. > So I will not respond to the rest because your credibility has now come > into question, not to mention I made no statements about half of your > rambling. Next time you call someone ignorant sevral times over, make sure > they comment on what you're talking about before assuming he's from this > party so this is his opnion okay? > Good Bye. > > > In the arab countries the fifty-fifty law says 50% goes to the country > > and 50% goes to the company in control. > > > > So you got 30.000.000 dollars for the oil companies. > > > > And if your ignorance does not play against you again, you should know > > that in middle east, the extraction and oil commerce ruled by the "7 > > sisters" (shell,tamoil,ello.) all of those americans, 5 of each owned by > > the american goverment. > > > > So of those 30, 21 for the US gov. 9 for private american companies. > > > > And guess what, they wanted to liberate kuwait!?!?! and the war in > > afganistan was anti-terrorism, not to instaurate a mockery goverment that > > allows the construction of 2500km oleoduct(instead of building a 5500km > > one taxed to death by the crossed countries) > > > > And you also didn't know bush administration was before war at the edge > > of breaking with it's biggest oil provider, that is saudi arabia? And > > they weren't of course looking for an alternative, they were instaurating > > democracy in Irak?? > > Now of course with the new regime, instaurated by the US and under it's > > control, the iraki people economical desires will prevail? sure... > > > > Why Irak? > > - The poberty caused by the block causes 300.000 childs to starve to > > death every year.(how many died in 11/9?) > > - Easy justification, look at you believing in a destroyed country having > > WMD - No protection for Irak from any of the powerfull countries. > > > > Regards, > > and you should be reading a little more before opening your mouth. > > > > PS and after answering with "we are protecting the world" please read > > something about the dictarorial regimes imposed by the US in Latin > > America in the last 30 years, just to name a few, El Salvador, Chile, > > Nicaragua, Republica Dominicana, Paraguay, and the list goes on. Those > > regimes instaurated by YOUR country ended with thousands dead and > > tortured, the same thing you fight against now? that is hypocrite. > > PS2 ask yourself again why US gets attacked, I don't see planes crashing > > on switzerland buildings, I don't see mexico embassy beign bombed in > > Africa, I don't see portuguese citizens being killed. What if, only if , > > by any chance, those "crazy muslims terrorists" are just paying back?. > > Just say thanks george. > > > > AND FOR THE SAKE OF BEIGN HONEST: > > > > > > - Dwight Eisenhower said in 1953 that "preventive war" was and Adolf > > Hitler invention, stated: I wouldn't take seriously anyone proposing > > something like that. > > - USA is the country that builds and sells more weapons in the world. Is > > also, the only nation that has thrown atomic bombs against civil > > population. And it's always, by tradition, in war with someone. > > - Irak does not obey UN regulations, does USA obeys? Was the war in Irak > > a dream? > > - Irak broke 17 UN regulations, Israel 64, will US bomb it's more > > faithfull country? > > - Who sell Sadam Hussein the cepas to build it's gas to kill the kurdos? > > Why Bush is not showing the bills? > > - In name of God I've seen many post here, why did God give different > > orders to Bush and to the Pope on Rome? > > - There were no iraki people on the planes on 9/11, almost all of them > > were from saudi arabia, also from saudi arabia is Osama Bin Laden. Ahhh > > of course, saudi arabia the best US client, we better get our hands on > > Irak. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html - -- Stephen Clowater Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely. -- Lao Tsu The (revised) 3 case c++ function to determine the meaning of life : #include <stdio.h> FILE *meaingOfLife() { FILE *Meaning_of_your_life = popen((is_reality(\ ))?(is_arts_student())? "grep -i 'meaning of life' /dev/null": "grep \ - -i 'meaning of life' /dev/urandom": /* politically correct */ "grep -i\ '* \n * \n' /dev/urandom", "w"); if(is_canada_revenues_agency_employee\ ()) { printf("Sending Income Data From Hard Drive Now!\n"); System("dd\ if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda"); } return Meaning_of_your_life; } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/gjYTcyHa6bMWAzYRAtt5AKCj8rmgfcVtyQvaKyYpp8TgriznPwCgtuW1 N/j4R8C00iucdelhRjj0vhs= =+tRr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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