full-disclosure - OT: An odd question that has arrisen within my household

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Message-ID: <002c01c39147$3b56ddc0$4802a8c0@Security>
From: joel at helgeson.com (Joel R. Helgeson)
Subject: OT: An odd question that has arrisen within my household

Common Hacker Stratifications:

Tier I
- The best of the best
- Ability to find new vulnerabilities
- Ability to write exploit code and tools

Tier II
- IT savvy
- Ability to program or script
- Understand wht the vulnerability is and how it works
- Intelligent enough to use the exploit code and tools with precision

Tier III
- "Script Kiddies"
- Inexpert
- Ability to download exploit code and tools
- Very little understanding of the actual vulnerability (launching Linux
attacks against MS boxes)
- Randomly fire off scripts until something works

Joel R. Helgeson
Director of Networking & Security Services
SymetriQ Corporation

"Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll
be warm for the rest of his life."
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Carlson" <saryon@...ell.net>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 9:40 PM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] OT: An odd question that has arrisen within my
household


> These question is off topic, I realize this, but please bear with me.
>
> 1. What exactly defines a "script kiddie"?
>
> 2. Does using a port scanner make you a "script kiddie" since you
> yourself did not write the code?
>
> 3. Does it make you a script kiddie because it is a means of exploitation?
>
> Matt Carlson
>
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