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From: michael at (Michael Gale)
Subject: Fw: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and
 transition planning

Ya - well - your opinions of other distro's just goes to show why you were using RH.

RH is, oh wait - was linux's version of windows, a pain in the a$$. People who started off on RH usually never learned anything and are stuck with the same problems as windows has except for less crashing. 

Modifying things is a pain because there are 50 millions different places that RH keeps the data and you can't do anything from the console so you get stuck using the GUI they provide. 

And please RPM'S !!!!! Should I just provide you with a windows install shield :)

Slackware is at version 9.1 thank you :) and in my opinion the best linux distro out there for server class machines, I feel it is better then freeBSD :)

It is also a great desktop OS -- it is just a "not out of the box" desktop - x-windows running machine.

Suse and Mandrake make fairly decent out of the box x running desktop machines.

But this is the whole point on using Linux - control and freedom. You get to do what ever you want, how ever you want with YOUR PC !!!.

I good luck to the RH company -- I hope you crash and burn. To all the RH users. Time to RTFM, stop trying to be linux "power user" and use a real distro. Hell - go and dw OpenBSD and start there !!! Is it like driving a car -- you do not start with the Porsche, you work your way up to it.


On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:22:30 -0500
"Jonathan A. Zdziarski" <> wrote:

> On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 14:11, Tim Groninga wrote:
> > Got the same f-you-gram today - already figuring out what distro to
> > fall back to but 99% of my experience has been on Redhat. No time to
> > try them FreeBSD/SuSE/Mandrake - what are your opinions of
> > each? Flexiblity, ease of use, ease of migration, security etc. 
> I would love to see the open source community pull together and create a
> better "user-friendly" Linux distribution to replace RedHat.  So far all
> of the alternatives I've looked at, while not bad, are quite frankly not
> impressive enough to capture any desktop user market space away from
> Microsoft...which is what I feel is the most important contribution
> RedHat made to Linux prior to turning into a bunch of selfish
> blood-sucking misers.  
> To answer your question:
> Debian: 8 CDs of useless or outdated software, 2.2 kernel install,
> poorly designed install tool
> Slackware: What version are we at?
> Mandrake: Welcome n00b.
> Lindows: su? we don't need no stinking su.
> FreeLSD: Uh, how did this make it into the mix? 
> SuSe: the most promising, which is why they'll probably be next to screw
> the Linux community.  Not sure if I can handle them discontinuing it for
> a SECOND time.
> <rant>
> I'm a strong supporter of open-source, free software...but wtf good is
> the GPL if the cycle always ends in the open-source, free software
> community being screwed?
> </rant>
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