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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0311041557250.5491-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: Fw: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and
 transition planning

<rofl>  cool thing about sun lately is they just plain tell ya, don't use
ours, we aren't gonna fix and maintain it now, go build yer own from
source.  They did that with ftpd <wu_ftpd mind you> and I believe
recommend the same now for sendmail.

And a slackware admin could follow that mindset easy.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Jeremiah Cornelius wrote:

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> Just look at the "latest" sendmail available for Solaris 8.
>
> Far worse than the complaints about Debian stable.
>
> So, don't complain about Fedora.  You don't like it - fix it Mr. Know-it-all.
> It's GPL and /community/ based.  You want to use it? You want it to suit your
> needs?  /Participate/ in the community!  You don't like the updater?  You
> might contribute RPMS for apt-get or the Mandrake updater - ported to the
> Fedora back-end. Maybe a secure transport for Kickstart - with the rpmfind
> db?
>
> The sky is the limit - - if you don't wait for other people to take you there,
> and /complian/ that they aren't!
>
> Jeremiah Cornelius
>
> On Tuesday 04 November 2003 08:22, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:25:55 EST, Eric Bowser said:
> >
> >
> > > Fedora seems like it will be unstable/difficult to patch/*insert
> > > whatever here* in an intentional effort to extract money from users for
> > > the enterprise version.  I don't debate the business sense behind their
> > > decisions, but they have made a viable OS available for years, gotten
> > > everybody addicted, and then replaced it with your choice of headaches,
> > > or a pay-to-play product.  Don't drug dealers do that?
> >
> >
> > On the other hand, commercial OS's tend to be *really* static, without
> > much innovation - look at IBM's z/OS, there's still remnants in there
> > from OS/360 in 1964.  People complain that Solaris hasn't picked up
> > <whatever> that other vendors have been doing for years.
> >
> > That's the price of stability.
> >
> > You should be glad that RedHat is willing to finance a distro where
> > the Next Big Thing can develop, even if it isn't their official product.
> > It's quite possibly the best thing that could have happened to
> > *both* RedHat and Fedora lines - now there's no longer the big
> > stability/innovation conflict that having one product line trying
> > to do both had.
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