full-disclosure - Professional Groups

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Message-ID: <15533237421C6E4296CC33A2090B224A54C99A@UTDEVS02.campus.ad.utdallas.edu>
From: pauls at utdallas.edu (Schmehl, Paul L)
Subject: Professional Groups

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bart.Lansing@...ls.com
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:33 PM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; 
> full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Professional Groups
> 
> This is off-topic as well...and probably should not even be 
> here...but...
> 
Ditto....but I couldn't resist.

I once worked with a guy who was a union member (AFL/CIO) and had been
laid off from GM.  He kept talking about how wonderful the union was,
and I got tired of hearing it, so I asked him:
1) How many years have you worked at GM?
2) What was your starting hourly wage?
3) What will be your hourly wage after the strike settles?
4) How many weeks have you gone without pay due to strikes?

When we did the math, he would have made more money if he had kept
working at his original starting pay than he did with all the raises and
increased benefits, due to the amount of income he lost during strike
periods.  (Back then they struck about every three years.)  I then
pointed out that he also paid $75/month dues for that privilege.

Really pissed him off, but he quit talking about the unions after that.

The only people a union makes rich are the union employees and
organizers, *not* the union members.

Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/