full-disclosure - Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause

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Message-ID: <40071E32.5050100@drippingdead.com>
From: cdowns at drippingdead.com (Christopher Downs)
Subject: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help
 the cause

Bill,
    Nice one ! intelligent words of a smart person. Speaking of smart, 
ive never seen an exploit or bug posted by you ?? kinda weird.. . Then 
again maybe not.

    Start smoking and you will find stuff hahahahaha.

~!>D
   

Bill Royds wrote:

>National Smokeout Day has been very successful in getting people to quit
>smoking for those wanting to quit smoking. It is not perfect because smoking
>is an addiction and only stupid people smoke anyway these days so it is hard
>to persuade them to stop.
>
>Personal Firewall Day is only one of many possible approaches to improving
>security on home machines. Too many people on this list have binary minds.
>Either it works perfectly or it doesn't work at all. This may be OK for
>logic circuits,but it is not valid for humans and computer users are human
>not mechanical.
>   Microsoft sells lots of software for two main reasons:
>1/ It is installed on machines when delivered (which is why they were
>convicted of being a monopoly in desktops).
>2/ Because most desktops run Windows, most software aimed at desktops runs
>only on Windows.
>
>  So you are not going to get MS off the desktop. How else are you going to
>protect the Internet and other computers from these users. A personal
>firewall is much better than closing your eyes and saying "run Linux, run
>Linux". A separate firewall between the modem and the box is probably better
>and they don't cost that much (about $50-$100) and they can act as a switch
>for a home network as well.
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
>[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of cdowns
>Sent: January 15, 2004 11:57 AM
>To: tlarholm@...x.com
>Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com;
>full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the
>cause
>
>Out of curiousity, you cant get people to stop smoking with the 
>"National Smokeout Day" what makes anyone think that this would do 
>anything ?
>
>Most people consider thier computer the equivelent of a hammer ( a tool 
>), in the toolbox at 4:00 pm sharp until they start thier next workday.
>
>maybe im wrong, I wish the best on this.
>
>~!>D
>
>tlarholm@...x.com wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall Day.
>>
>>http://www.personalfirewallday.org/
>>
>>The Personal Firewall Day is a campaign designed to raise awareness about
>>    
>>
>the dangers we face without a personal firewall. Security experts such as
>yourself are encouraged to use the occasion of Personal Firewall Day to
>share your expertise and advice with your lesser technologically skilled
>friends and family, and help get them secured by installing a personal
>firewall - this could be as simple as helping them turn on the XP firewall.
>Direct them to the website where they can learn more about personal
>firewalls and other layers of protection.
>  
>
>>Compromised end-user machines affect us all and the Internet as a whole
>>    
>>
>when they are used as zombies for DDoS networks or proxies by criminal
>spammers, and your personal effort can help remedy this.
>  
>
>>PFD is a direct result of the discussions that originated from the
>>    
>>
>NTBugtraq Retreat '03, and would not have been possible without the
>dedication and hard work put into the project by Paul Robertson, director of
>risk assessment with TruSecure and the original proponent of the idea.
>  
>
>>
>>Regards 
>>Thor Larholm 
>>Senior Security Researcher 
>>PivX Solutions 
>>24 Corporate Plaza #180 
>>Newport Beach, CA 92660 
>>http://www.pivx.com 
>>thor@...x.com 
>>949-231-8496 
>>PivX defines "Proactive Threat Mitigation". Get a FREE Beta Version of
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>>
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>><http://www.qwik-fix.net> 
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