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Message-ID: <40074B5C.9090100@drippingdead.com> From: cdowns at drippingdead.com (Christopher Downs) Subject: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Hey how come no one said anything about a computer being a "tool" ? curious about that.. I think everyone took my slang joke the wrong way and only saw the s m o k i n g part. People really dont care about computers they just use them and thats it. They print pictures and play video games - simple and I dont get upset cause that what they want and what they paid for. Oh i also wished luck too ? hahah oh well no big deal guys. I still think its a good idea to help people that can or want to be helped but not everyone wants it. take care all. ~!>D > > Bill Royds wrote: > >> National Smokeout Day has been very successful in getting people to quit >> smoking for those wanting to quit smoking. It is not perfect because >> smoking >> is an addiction and only stupid people smoke anyway these days so it >> is hard >> to persuade them to stop. >> >> Personal Firewall Day is only one of many possible approaches to >> improving >> security on home machines. Too many people on this list have binary >> minds. >> Either it works perfectly or it doesn't work at all. This may be OK for >> logic circuits,but it is not valid for humans and computer users are >> human >> not mechanical. >> Microsoft sells lots of software for two main reasons: >> 1/ It is installed on machines when delivered (which is why they were >> convicted of being a monopoly in desktops). >> 2/ Because most desktops run Windows, most software aimed at desktops >> runs >> only on Windows. >> >> So you are not going to get MS off the desktop. How else are you >> going to >> protect the Internet and other computers from these users. A personal >> firewall is much better than closing your eyes and saying "run Linux, >> run >> Linux". A separate firewall between the modem and the box is probably >> better >> and they don't cost that much (about $50-$100) and they can act as a >> switch >> for a home network as well. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com >> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of cdowns >> Sent: January 15, 2004 11:57 AM >> To: tlarholm@...x.com >> Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com; >> full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com >> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, >> help the >> cause >> >> Out of curiousity, you cant get people to stop smoking with the >> "National Smokeout Day" what makes anyone think that this would do >> anything ? >> >> Most people consider thier computer the equivelent of a hammer ( a >> tool ), in the toolbox at 4:00 pm sharp until they start thier next >> workday. >> >> maybe im wrong, I wish the best on this. >> >> ~!>D >> >> tlarholm@...x.com wrote: >> >> >> >>> I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall >>> Day. >>> >>> http://www.personalfirewallday.org/ >>> >>> The Personal Firewall Day is a campaign designed to raise awareness >>> about >>> >> >> the dangers we face without a personal firewall. Security experts >> such as >> yourself are encouraged to use the occasion of Personal Firewall Day to >> share your expertise and advice with your lesser technologically skilled >> friends and family, and help get them secured by installing a personal >> firewall - this could be as simple as helping them turn on the XP >> firewall. >> Direct them to the website where they can learn more about personal >> firewalls and other layers of protection. >> >> >>> Compromised end-user machines affect us all and the Internet as a whole >>> >> >> when they are used as zombies for DDoS networks or proxies by criminal >> spammers, and your personal effort can help remedy this. >> >> >>> PFD is a direct result of the discussions that originated from the >>> >> >> NTBugtraq Retreat '03, and would not have been possible without the >> dedication and hard work put into the project by Paul Robertson, >> director of >> risk assessment with TruSecure and the original proponent of the idea. >> >> >>> >>> Regards Thor Larholm Senior Security Researcher PivX Solutions 24 >>> Corporate Plaza #180 Newport Beach, CA 92660 http://www.pivx.com >>> thor@...x.com 949-231-8496 PivX defines "Proactive Threat >>> Mitigation". Get a FREE Beta Version of >>> >> >> Qwik-Fix >> >>> <http://www.qwik-fix.net> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > >
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