full-disclosure - Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause

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Message-ID: <D89E9C009C6E5B4381DCBE89CA703CEE02EF9CA0@MI8NYCMAIL04.Mi8.com>
From: pwicks at oxygen.com (James Patterson Wicks)
Subject: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day,
 help the cause

True.  That why further down in the post I talk about using the Mozilla browser, anti-virus, IDS and spyware apps.  Nothing is 100%, but getting into the 90% range helps me sleep better at night.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com]On Behalf Of Nicob
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 7:03 AM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day,
help the cause

On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 05:44, James Patterson Wicks wrote:

> Your NAT router works at Layer 3.  You still need a personal firewall or
> proxy system that looks at as many layers as possible.  You need
> something like Sygate Personal Firewall that alerts you when an
> application or process that you have not approved tries to go OUT to the
> Internet from your PC.

Even with a personal firewall, a trojan could go out to the Internet
without your knowledge, using different tactics :

- exploiting a bug (in filtering) of the personal firewall used (like
not monitoring UDP 53 outbound)
- exploiting a bug (like a buffer overflow) of the personal firewall
used and using these new privs to modify the setup and allowing itself
- bypassing the personal firewall by using authorized applications (like
Internet Explorer via the OLE controls)
- bypassing the personal firewall by injecting your own code in
authorized applications (? la CreateRemoteThread)
- bypassing the personal firewall by injecting your network data under
the hook in the TCP/IP stack
- ...

-- 
Nicob <nicob@...ob.net>

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