Message-ID: <024901c3dc63$ebf12bb0$1214dd80@corp.emc.com>
From: exibar at thelair.com (Exibar)
Subject: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause

I'm very glad to see that it appears the majority on this list agree.

 Ex

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Royds" <full-disclosure@...ds.net>
To: "'cdowns'" <cdowns@...ppingdead.com>; <tlarholm@...x.com>
Cc: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help
the cause


> National Smokeout Day has been very successful in getting people to quit
> smoking for those wanting to quit smoking. It is not perfect because
smoking
> is an addiction and only stupid people smoke anyway these days so it is
hard
> to persuade them to stop.
>
> Personal Firewall Day is only one of many possible approaches to improving
> security on home machines. Too many people on this list have binary minds.
> Either it works perfectly or it doesn't work at all. This may be OK for
> logic circuits,but it is not valid for humans and computer users are human
> not mechanical.
>    Microsoft sells lots of software for two main reasons:
> 1/ It is installed on machines when delivered (which is why they were
> convicted of being a monopoly in desktops).
> 2/ Because most desktops run Windows, most software aimed at desktops runs
> only on Windows.
>
>   So you are not going to get MS off the desktop. How else are you going
to
> protect the Internet and other computers from these users. A personal
> firewall is much better than closing your eyes and saying "run Linux, run
> Linux". A separate firewall between the modem and the box is probably
better
> and they don't cost that much (about $50-$100) and they can act as a
switch
> for a home network as well.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of cdowns
> Sent: January 15, 2004 11:57 AM
> To: tlarholm@...x.com
> Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com;
> full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help
the
> cause
>
> Out of curiousity, you cant get people to stop smoking with the
> "National Smokeout Day" what makes anyone think that this would do
> anything ?
>
> Most people consider thier computer the equivelent of a hammer ( a tool
> ), in the toolbox at 4:00 pm sharp until they start thier next workday.
>
> maybe im wrong, I wish the best on this.
>
> ~!>D
>
> tlarholm@...x.com wrote:
>
> >I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall Day.
> >
> >http://www.personalfirewallday.org/
> >
> >The Personal Firewall Day is a campaign designed to raise awareness about
> the dangers we face without a personal firewall. Security experts such as
> yourself are encouraged to use the occasion of Personal Firewall Day to
> share your expertise and advice with your lesser technologically skilled
> friends and family, and help get them secured by installing a personal
> firewall - this could be as simple as helping them turn on the XP
firewall.
> Direct them to the website where they can learn more about personal
> firewalls and other layers of protection.
> >
> >Compromised end-user machines affect us all and the Internet as a whole
> when they are used as zombies for DDoS networks or proxies by criminal
> spammers, and your personal effort can help remedy this.
> >
> >PFD is a direct result of the discussions that originated from the
> NTBugtraq Retreat '03, and would not have been possible without the
> dedication and hard work put into the project by Paul Robertson, director
of
> risk assessment with TruSecure and the original proponent of the idea.
> >
> >
> >
> >Regards
> >Thor Larholm
> >Senior Security Researcher
> >PivX Solutions
> >24 Corporate Plaza #180
> >Newport Beach, CA 92660
> >http://www.pivx.com
> >thor@...x.com
> >949-231-8496
> >PivX defines "Proactive Threat Mitigation". Get a FREE Beta Version of
> Qwik-Fix
> ><http://www.qwik-fix.net>
> >
> >
> >
>
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