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Message-ID: <405ADC19.11392.B16C459@localhost>
From: nick at virus-l.demon.co.uk (Nick FitzGerald)
Subject: Administrivia (was: RE: Re: Microsoft Security,
baby steps ? )
John.Airey@...b.org.uk wrote:
> And please guys, stop cc'ing me. I'm on the list and have been almost
> since it started!
Indeed.
First, it is actually _rude_ to CC responses to messages from "self-
moderating" lists (such as Full-Disclosure) to the poster and the list
because, by definition, the poster is on the list and will see your
reply.
Aside from the rudeness/annoyance value of receiving two copies of such
messages, however, in the case of Full-Disclosure the original poster
will likely receive four to twenty copies of your message. This occurs
because there are some really braindead Email gateways/relays/content
scanners out there that "lose" the SMTP envelope addressing information
while processing messages (or simply, and very wrongly, decide to
supplement such with further addresses from the RFC [2]822 header in
the message body) and thereby send "extra" copies back to the sender
and/or the list address. At its worst, this can result in a nasty
little cycling loop (until, I think, the F-D server simply drops the
next iteration because it has too many Received: headers), but even at
its best, the several such braindead/misconfigured servers actively
processing mail for several soemones on this list will shower the
original poster (_NOT_ the person posting the response) with their
unneccessary extra copies.
So, please do _NOT_ CC your list responses to the OP (if you really,
really believe the OP will read your comments twice, consider BCC'ing
them, rather than CC'ing).
Also, when sending messages to multiple lists (say F-D and Bugtraq), it
seems you may slightly reduce the multiple message spew that often
results on F-D because of the above by putting all the addresses in the
To: header, rather than one in the To: and the other(s) in CC:.
Regards,
Nick FitzGerald
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