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From: maclenna at cs.curtin.edu.au (Alexander MacLennan)
Subject: [Fwd: Re: MCSE training question]

A certificate is not just like a degree.

A degree should give you a thorough grounding in the foundations of a 
particular field of study and the ability to learn.

A certificate is intended to give you the skills to operate a particular 
product or suite of products. The certificate may or may not teach you 
the fundamentals behind the product.

I'm not arguing the pros and cons of either.. just stating the obvious

-------- Original Message --------
From: Exibar <exibar@...lair.com>
To: Joel R. Helgeson <joel@...geson.com>, Curt Purdy <purdy@...man.com>, 
   <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] MCSE training question

It's very interesting to see that those people without any certifications,
always say that certs are a waste of time, that a monkey can pass the exams
(all of them, doesn't matter which), blah blah blah

   A cert is just like a degree.  Not much different.  There are people with
PHD's that are total idiots and you wonder how they got their PHD, then
there are those PHD's that you just KNOW that they are on top of their game
and deserve those letters.  When an employer looks at a resume, he'll pay
closer attention to the candidate with those letters.  It's just a bar that
the person jumped over, he/she took the time out of their lives to attain
that degree or certification, they are worth a closer look.  The person
without those letters "might" know more about the given subject to to
experience, but that will come out in the interview.

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