full-disclosure - Re: Cisco's stolen code

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Message-ID: <OF9E579CB3.3AAEA9BA-ON48256EA1.00070B97@int.csc.com.au>
From: tcleary2 at csc.com.au (tcleary2@....com.au)
Subject: Re: Cisco's stolen code

Marek Isalski said:

>IIRC, that law finally got patched a few years ago so that people who 
pinch cars for a joy ride could still be >sentenced.

Wrong.

"Taking and driving away" ( TDA ) was always a separate offence, since it 
got invented.

Imagine: You hire a car, but don't return it.

Theft, right?

Wrong. This is a Civil Debt ( failure to pay a rightful debt for service 
obtained, so long as you use your real drivers licence. )

If you use a false D/L it's obtaining services by deception.

And in case you're interested I could bore the a**e off you with a long 
story about an ex Green Beret who did just that.

Guess who the arresting Officer was?  ;-)

Regards,

tom.
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