Message-ID: <200406232248.i5NMmGp24427@pop-8.dnv.wideopenwest.com>
From: mvp at joeware.net (joe)
Subject: RE:  M$ - so what should they do?

Interesting opinion. Thanks for the feedback.  

There isn't much to say as you have already defined the world you live in
and anything outside of that definition is obviously incorrect. 

For the benefit of the more, shall we say, open minded. I would say that
personally I prefer to fix things and not have to go back to them. The
systems I build tend to be extremely fault tolerant and run well. As for
contributions, I have many, both for a fee and for free. Until such a time
as saving the world puts a roof over my head and petrol in my tank, I will
continue to do things that are fee based. 

On your business sense, I think it may be lacking a tad. I choose to do my
primary business in the market that has the most customers to pick from.
This is simple business logic. This isn't about saving the world and pushing
software on companies that could require millions in investment to start
using and *may* never actually be a true benefit to them. In the end though
if I need to work on any OS on any gig I am on, so be it, they all do the
same basic things, this isn't rocket science. I have done it before and
expect I will do so again, my last gig which was Windows based still
involved considerable work in trying to get a few thousand *nix machines
kerberized. If I wasn't that flexible I would still be playing with RSTS/E
or VMS or SunOS or something wondering why I was having issues making ends
meet. If this was about the best OS or best computer company, we would
probably all be running Apples right now and watching Beta VCRs. 

Once more, these bits slapped together we call programs and OSes are simply
tools. 


Now is there something in the security realm that you want to realistically
discuss? If not, but you feel you need to have more say, email me directly. 


 Thanks, 

   joe



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Notice how in every message he continually harps on the money aspect.
How well he gets paid, how this avenue is the best source of income for him.
How everything is about him.  This is quite revealing in that it reflects
the same moral corruption shared by the bitch he pimps. Not all unlike some
tradespeople who will continue to advise fixing things as long as they are
the ones to fix it. Instead of offering real professional advise and
advising to switch over to something else once and for all,  he will happily
assure you there is nothing wrong but should something go wrong, he will be
more than happy to fix it. For a fee of course.

What a loser. Sitting on the beach content he is raping his customers.
Look at me how clever I am. Got it all figured out how to keep on making
money. Can't contribute to society so I'll parasite off it.

scumbag.

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