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Message-ID: <68E252B4-D0BF-11D8-A8E7-000A958871B8@oav.net>
From: kiwi at oav.net (Xavier Beaudouin)
Subject: shell:windows command question

>> This is not a real security matter
>
> Denial of Service causing the user to reset his system is not a 
> security
> issue?

I don't think that Denial of Service causing local user to reset his 
system because of local application locks the whole system... is not a 
security problem, but OS + Security problem...

If the M$ Operating System cannot deal with an application that 
locks... then the problem not only on application but also the whole 
system.

But this DoS is a bit less big than a remote DoS... that can compromise 
lots of OS...

BTW I really think that M$ is unresponsible with XP SP1 / SP2 about the 
fact the OS cannot be upgraded and fix the numerous holes that such OS 
gets all the time.

I am ok with the fact that people *should* buy the OS they use 
(especialy if it is a commerial OS), but M$ should take the 
responsability of all DDoS that is comming from his broken operating 
system that cannot be secured.

This is really a problem for lots of ISP that have "end users" target 
and that gets lots of infected system online on xDSL...

Even if M$ will make a patch for <any> hole, it will not be available 
nor automatically patched on all "copied" system...

Really we should make that on all our firewall, until MS takes his 
responsabilities :

            block in proto tcp from any os Doors
            block in proto tcp from any os "Doors PT"
            block in proto tcp from any os "Doors PT SP3"

Replace "Doors" by what you know...

My 0,02?
/Xavier

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