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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0407081152570.22430-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: denial of service on ISN list

Bummer, ISP' not wishing to take responsibility for their spamming
clients, almost as bad as those ISP' that let compromised systems ride
their backbones while spewing attacks at the rest of the internet.  You'd
be better served to find an ISP that knowns how to play better with t;s
internet neighbors then whining here.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, lsi wrote:

> I can't subscribe to ISN because their mail server thinks my mail
> server is a spammer.  I can report that Pipex are one of the largest
> ISPs in the UK, and that this server might be used by hundreds of
> thousands of people.
>
> I put it to ISN that your system allows people to be kicked off the
> list.  All I need to do is fake some spam from my enemy's SMTP to the
> list, and you block the entire server.  When another of Pipex'
> 100,000 subscribers attempts to join, they are blocked too.  Not
> good.
>
> Stu
>
> On 8 Jul 2004 at 1:59, Mail Delivery System wrote:
>
> Date sent:      	Thu,  8 Jul 2004 01:59:26 +0100 (BST)
> From:           	MAILER-DAEMON@...go.systems.pipex.net (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject:        	Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> To:             	stuart@...erdelix.net
>
> > This is the Postfix program at host pengo.systems.pipex.net.
> >
> > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
> >
> > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>
> >
> > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> > delete your own text from the message returned below.
> >
> > 			The Postfix program
> >
> > <isn-request@...rition.org>: host forced.attrition.org[66.80.146.7] said: 553
> >     5.3.0 - 780 spammer or relay pengo.systems.pipex.net ESMTP Postfix (in
> >     reply to MAIL FROM command)
> >
>
>
>
> ---
> Stuart Udall
> stuart at@...erdelix.dot net - http://www.cyberdelix.net/
>
> ---
>  * Origin: lsi: revolution through evolution (192.168.0.2)
>
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