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Message-ID: <00ee01c47eff$5e35a230$fc11010a@msad.brookshires.net>
From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: (no subject)

Did anyone see that article about how one the latest MyDooms wasn't a MyDoom
at all, but they wanted to keep the name to avoid confusion. =)

Can't find the article, plus it is lunch time.

Listen all AV companines name MyDoom, MyDoom, how hard would it be to get
the variant name to be somewhat equal. Is the letter in front of the back?
Is there a W32 in the name? Do have mass mailers have @MM...umm nope?

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Frank Knobbe
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:14 AM
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...sys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] (no subject)

On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 09:47, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> Software gets named over days/weeks.  They crank out a new name for an
element
> every few years. These things need names in *MINUTES* - often while the
various
> A/V companies are looking at different copies of a polymorphic,
multi-attack
> piece of malware.

Hey, I didn't say it would be easy, did I?

> 5 blind men and an elephant time... and you want them to agree on a name
before
> they even agree they're looking at the same thing???

Obviously not at time of research. But these days everyone is keeping an
ear on the ground... I mean Internet... while they are doing research.
Once one company, which is working on a new strain they term BigNasty,
finds out 3 others are discussion this (on the Internet or private AV
channels) as the SuckThis virus, then they could adopt that name to
avoid confusion.

I didn't say it was easy, but they could at least make an effort.

Here we are a year later and still call it Bagle or Beagle, either one.
I'm still confused if MyDoom-O and MyDoom-M are the same thing or not.

BTW: Perhaps the analogy to medicine was misplaced. I just thought in
term of diseases. How many different names do we have for ...say...
chicken pox or colitis or diabetes? Imagine you had 5 different names
for the flu. I could come up with a dozen Monty Python sketches taking
place in the doctors office.... 

I didn't say it was easy, but we should "encourage" the AV industry to
work towards such a standardization. It may even be beneficial for them.

Sing with me Valdis....
"I say tomato, you say tomato,
I say potato, you say potato, 
I say Beagle, you say Bagle,
and others are calling it something else."

Regards,
Frank  (throwing rocks at the glass palace)