full-disclosure - iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!]

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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0408121600510.25721-100000@parka.winternet.com>
From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Steve wrote:

>  --- Ron DuFresne <dufresne@...ternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting, yet, so far lacking in any real
> > evidence that Idefense was
> > the force behind their demise.  Is there something
> > other then heresay and
> > conjecture to back up the claim?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ron DuFresne
>
> Not been to the http://www.roguesci.org site I take
> it?
> Read the front page then comment.

No, I had not been to that site/page.  Thanks for the link, I must have
missed it in your preivious posting on this.  Seems these folks might not
be doing themselves the most good though when they make statements like
this on the page;

<quote>
         There must now be a penalty applied to iDefense. There remains
   in my possession a considerable amount of knowledge concerning the
   synthesis of explosives and chemical weapons. I have held this
   knowledge in abeyance because I was unsure if the world is ready for
   it. I am the kind of person who does things solely for the reasons
   that others dislike it. Because iDefense thinks we have dangerous
   information I will no longer horde any of my chemical weapons
   information. I will distribute everything I have, and encourage others
   to do the same, for the very reason they dont want me to. I will also
   make every effort to distribute our information in as many languages
   as possible, to as many websites as possible.
</quote>

Taking legal action against idefense if they were the original source of
the pressure that got them booted from their hosting site is one thing,
asking the user community to either e-mail idefense about their
displeasure or to not recommend or support idefense another, but, making
statements like this is totally another.  For one thing the threat is not
directed at idefense, its directed at everyone at large.  It kinda reeks
of hormonal imbalance and perhaps reinforces the perception of terroistic
tendencies.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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