Message-ID: <20040903153310.92897.qmail@web61202.mail.yahoo.com>
From: da_entrepreneur at yahoo.com (the entrepreneur)
Subject: The Hacker's Manifesto Reloaded

James,
A nice manifesto indeed. But it no way does it
correlates to the one which I have written (or
probably modified). Maybe the sarcasm is not
noticeable, maybe  you missed it, maybe because we are
different people altogether. 
Well, I am here because I am anti-authoritative, a
negated personality (I hate to call it that because
the fundamental idea of it's emergence was this growth
of negative activity, this was root for pete's sake!).
Maybe you supressed your impulses, or are vehementaly
denying it.
Well its snonymous to rap songs, they are violent,
they are bad, but we listen, with that fetish look in
eyes. Maybe you listen to it too or maybe not, but
there always one vantage point where you blow your
steam, about your very inner conscience.
My conscience was the conscinence of this Manifesto,
it manifests, the "hummm..." sound some people will do
when they read it. It's for them.
If not for them, lest it's for me.
EULA might not cover it (how can you miss the pun
there ?), but the First Amendment will. hehe.

Am I spared?

-Regards
The Entrepreneur      
--- James Tucker <jftucker@...il.com> wrote:

> A short piece of food for thought for all you
> hackers out there. This
> is not an attack on your livelihood this is merely a
> point for your
> consideration.
> 
> It (the manifesto) does not explain why this
> information is relevant
> for me to read. or maybe I am unable to understand
> the part that does,
> if so please teach this willing student.
> 
> Your manifesto seems largely similar to those
> written by many others.
> The attacks upon the security industry (which is
> required, whether the
> techs are good or not is a different matter) are
> largely unqualified.
> Please do not forget that businesses are formed due
> to the needs of
> other businesses or people and they serve others,
> this leads in a
> chain like manner back to the industries you would
> choose not to
> attack.
> 
> Tell me how would you feel if you successfully stole
> enough money that
> you crashed an economy and power generation also
> stopped. An unreal
> scenario I know, but tone this back down to reality,
> and you realise
> that the things you are using are also directly
> related to the things
> you are trashing. In essence you are destroying your
> own world.
> 
> It is business that makes computers, it is power
> that feeds the
> factories, it is these peoples money that pays the
> employees. The
> employees need health insurance if they want to
> survive, hospitals
> need their equipment, which in turn requires design,
> logistics for
> movement of physical items. The logistics companies
> need ISP's for
> their communications infrastructure, and banks to
> manage their money.
> The trail goes on. Do you not realise that many of
> the places you
> attack are merely part of the chain of business
> which supports the
> world that you love?
> 
> A final point to further this, how far are you
> willing to go in
> causing people inconvenience? Every day people
> commit suicide due to
> stress caused to them in their business lives.
> Shutting down
> communications media, or any other business could
> have this effect (or
> at least contribute). Even furthermore there are
> situations where your
> actions may more directly affect the safety of
> individuals. Continuing
> to do so may then be compared to attempted murder.
> Still think you
> have any moral high ground?
> 
> Finally the word manifesto means "a declaration of
> intent". I was
> unable to see any intended actions stated. In fact
> what I read more
> resembled a boast of money gained by actions already
> performed, and
> insult of lesser hackers and security professionals.
> For someone who
> should have a clear understanding of the need for
> accurate
> understanding of language (most important when the
> language is dealt
> with on a purely logical and explicit basis as with
> a computer system)
> you seem to not care so much about the accuracy of
> your written
> language.
> 
> ---
> 
> I am a student of security and this is my manifesto.
> I intend to have
> any hacker who tries to attack me for trying to
> provide an explanation
> of my point of view to them, thrown into jail for
> the longest sentence
> available under the laws of the country in which
> they committed their
> crime. This is my statement of intent, my manifesto,
> and it needs no
> end user license agreement or copyright. It is not
> unreasonable, it is
> not a declaration of war, it is a statement
> accompanying a point for
> discussion, nothing more.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> 
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 05:45:19 -0700 (PDT), the
> entrepreneur
> <da_entrepreneur@...oo.com> wrote:
> > it says everything.
> > 
> > 
> > --- James Tucker <jftucker@...il.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > why?
> > >
> > > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 03:31:32 -0700 (PDT), the
> > > entrepreneur
> > > <da_entrepreneur@...oo.com> wrote:
> > > > The following was written shortly after my
> > > > placement...
> > > >
> > > >                        \/\The Conscience of a
> > > Hacker -
> > > > Redux /\/
> > > >                       (c)CopyRight
> > > SuppaDuppaSecurity
> > > > Solutions.
> > > >                             *where do u wanna
> pee
> > > today*
> > > >                                       by
> > > >
> > > >                                +++The
> > > Entrepreneur+++
> > > >
> > > >                           Written on September
> 3,
> > > > 2004.
> > > >
> > > > Another one got bought today, it's all over
> the
> > > Wall
> > > > Street.  "Teenager Floated A Big Secuirty
> Company
> > > ",
> > > > "Hacker Paid After Ethical Hacking Of A
> Bank..."
> > > >         Damn kids.  They're all money whores.
> > > >
> > > > But did you, in your C Grade Economics Degree
> and
> > > > l4am3 technobrain, ever take a look behind the
> > > eyes of
> > > >
> > > > this professional hacker?  Did you ever wonder
> > > what
> > > > made him whored, what forces lured him, what
> may
> > > have
> > > > sold him?
> > > >         I am a professional hacker, look at my
> > > bank
> > > > account...
> > > >
> > > > Mine is a world that begins with money... I'm
> > > richer
> > > > than most of the other kids, this crap they
> buy is
> > > so
> > > > darn cheap...
> > > >         Damn underachiever.  They're all money
> > > whores.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a junior security consultant.  I've
> listened
> > > to
> > > > senior security professionals about how to be
> a
> > > good
> > > > hacker.
> > > > I spit at it.  "No, Mr.NiceGuy-CISSP CISA CEH,
> I
> > > > didn't show my 0day. I sold it..."
> > > >         Damn kid.  Probably leeched it. 
> They're
> > > all
> > > > money whores.
> > > >
> > > > I made a discovery today.  I found a Venture
> > > > Capitalist.  Wait a second, this is cool.  It
> does
> > > > what I want it to.
> > > > If it makes a mistake, he doesnt notice
> because,
> > > he is
> > > > lame. He doesn't understand a crap of
> security,
> 
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