Message-ID: <e92364c304090316243d329711@mail.gmail.com>
From: jftucker at gmail.com (James Tucker)
Subject: The Hacker's Manifesto Reloaded

Lollery.


On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:33:10 -0700 (PDT), the entrepreneur
<da_entrepreneur@...oo.com> wrote:
> James,
> A nice manifesto indeed. But it no way does it
> correlates to the one which I have written (or
> probably modified). Maybe the sarcasm is not
> noticeable, maybe  you missed it, maybe because we are
> different people altogether.
> Well, I am here because I am anti-authoritative, a
> negated personality (I hate to call it that because
> the fundamental idea of it's emergence was this growth
> of negative activity, this was root for pete's sake!).
> Maybe you supressed your impulses, or are vehementaly
> denying it.
> Well its snonymous to rap songs, they are violent,
> they are bad, but we listen, with that fetish look in
> eyes. Maybe you listen to it too or maybe not, but
> there always one vantage point where you blow your
> steam, about your very inner conscience.
> My conscience was the conscinence of this Manifesto,
> it manifests, the "hummm..." sound some people will do
> when they read it. It's for them.
> If not for them, lest it's for me.
> EULA might not cover it (how can you miss the pun
> there ?), but the First Amendment will. hehe.
> 
> Am I spared?
> 
> -Regards
> The Entrepreneur
> --- James Tucker <jftucker@...il.com> wrote:
> 
> > A short piece of food for thought for all you
> > hackers out there. This
> > is not an attack on your livelihood this is merely a
> > point for your
> > consideration.
> >
> > It (the manifesto) does not explain why this
> > information is relevant
> > for me to read. or maybe I am unable to understand
> > the part that does,
> > if so please teach this willing student.
> >
> > Your manifesto seems largely similar to those
> > written by many others.
> > The attacks upon the security industry (which is
> > required, whether the
> > techs are good or not is a different matter) are
> > largely unqualified.
> > Please do not forget that businesses are formed due
> > to the needs of
> > other businesses or people and they serve others,
> > this leads in a
> > chain like manner back to the industries you would
> > choose not to
> > attack.
> >
> > Tell me how would you feel if you successfully stole
> > enough money that
> > you crashed an economy and power generation also
> > stopped. An unreal
> > scenario I know, but tone this back down to reality,
> > and you realise
> > that the things you are using are also directly
> > related to the things
> > you are trashing. In essence you are destroying your
> > own world.
> >
> > It is business that makes computers, it is power
> > that feeds the
> > factories, it is these peoples money that pays the
> > employees. The
> > employees need health insurance if they want to
> > survive, hospitals
> > need their equipment, which in turn requires design,
> > logistics for
> > movement of physical items. The logistics companies
> > need ISP's for
> > their communications infrastructure, and banks to
> > manage their money.
> > The trail goes on. Do you not realise that many of
> > the places you
> > attack are merely part of the chain of business
> > which supports the
> > world that you love?
> >
> > A final point to further this, how far are you
> > willing to go in
> > causing people inconvenience? Every day people
> > commit suicide due to
> > stress caused to them in their business lives.
> > Shutting down
> > communications media, or any other business could
> > have this effect (or
> > at least contribute). Even furthermore there are
> > situations where your
> > actions may more directly affect the safety of
> > individuals. Continuing
> > to do so may then be compared to attempted murder.
> > Still think you
> > have any moral high ground?
> >
> > Finally the word manifesto means "a declaration of
> > intent". I was
> > unable to see any intended actions stated. In fact
> > what I read more
> > resembled a boast of money gained by actions already
> > performed, and
> > insult of lesser hackers and security professionals.
> > For someone who
> > should have a clear understanding of the need for
> > accurate
> > understanding of language (most important when the
> > language is dealt
> > with on a purely logical and explicit basis as with
> > a computer system)
> > you seem to not care so much about the accuracy of
> > your written
> > language.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > I am a student of security and this is my manifesto.
> > I intend to have
> > any hacker who tries to attack me for trying to
> > provide an explanation
> > of my point of view to them, thrown into jail for
> > the longest sentence
> > available under the laws of the country in which
> > they committed their
> > crime. This is my statement of intent, my manifesto,
> > and it needs no
> > end user license agreement or copyright. It is not
> > unreasonable, it is
> > not a declaration of war, it is a statement
> > accompanying a point for
> > discussion, nothing more.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 05:45:19 -0700 (PDT), the
> > entrepreneur
> > <da_entrepreneur@...oo.com> wrote:
> > > it says everything.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- James Tucker <jftucker@...il.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > why?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 03:31:32 -0700 (PDT), the
> > > > entrepreneur
> > > > <da_entrepreneur@...oo.com> wrote:
> > > > > The following was written shortly after my
> > > > > placement...
> > > > >
> > > > >                        \/\The Conscience of a
> > > > Hacker -
> > > > > Redux /\/
> > > > >                       (c)CopyRight
> > > > SuppaDuppaSecurity
> > > > > Solutions.
> > > > >                             *where do u wanna
> > pee
> > > > today*
> > > > >                                       by
> > > > >
> > > > >                                +++The
> > > > Entrepreneur+++
> > > > >
> > > > >                           Written on September
> > 3,
> > > > > 2004.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another one got bought today, it's all over
> > the
> > > > Wall
> > > > > Street.  "Teenager Floated A Big Secuirty
> > Company
> > > > ",
> > > > > "Hacker Paid After Ethical Hacking Of A
> > Bank..."
> > > > >         Damn kids.  They're all money whores.
> > > > >
> > > > > But did you, in your C Grade Economics Degree
> > and
> > > > > l4am3 technobrain, ever take a look behind the
> > > > eyes of
> > > > >
> > > > > this professional hacker?  Did you ever wonder
> > > > what
> > > > > made him whored, what forces lured him, what
> > may
> > > > have
> > > > > sold him?
> > > > >         I am a professional hacker, look at my
> > > > bank
> > > > > account...
> > > > >
> > > > > Mine is a world that begins with money... I'm
> > > > richer
> > > > > than most of the other kids, this crap they
> > buy is
> > > > so
> > > > > darn cheap...
> > > > >         Damn underachiever.  They're all money
> > > > whores.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a junior security consultant.  I've
> > listened
> > > > to
> > > > > senior security professionals about how to be
> > a
> > > > good
> > > > > hacker.
> > > > > I spit at it.  "No, Mr.NiceGuy-CISSP CISA CEH,
> > I
> > > > > didn't show my 0day. I sold it..."
> > > > >         Damn kid.  Probably leeched it.
> > They're
> > > > all
> > > > > money whores.
> > > > >
> > > > > I made a discovery today.  I found a Venture
> > > > > Capitalist.  Wait a second, this is cool.  It
> > does
> > > > > what I want it to.
> > > > > If it makes a mistake, he doesnt notice
> > because,
> > > > he is
> > > > > lame. He doesn't understand a crap of
> > security,
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
> 
> 
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