full-disclosure - Teen hacker controls ebay

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Message-ID: <87brgforh9.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
From: fw at deneb.enyo.de (Florian Weimer)
Subject: Teen hacker controls ebay

* Rainer Duffner:

>> Personally, I can't comprehend how the default for something like that
>> would be "Yes", 
>
> Because, if the ISP is bankrupt, the "YES" will never come.

And that's a problem because of ...?

DENIC (the registry) claims to have a direct contractual relationship
with all domain holders (not "owners", registering a domain doesn't
grant you ownership, at least most of the time).

> And I'd like to see you scramble to get your domains from a bankrupt
> hoster to another one, waiting for that simple "yes" to your transfer,
> which will never come as all lines have been cut and not a single bit
> will ever come from their /24 or /16 again...

In theory, you would resolve such a problem with DENIC.  In practice,
DENIC doesn't have the infrastructure to deal with bankruptcy even of
a small DENIC member/registrar.

> IMHO (and several others more involved in the domain-trading biz)

The problem is that domains are used for more things than just for
domain trading.  The current focus on easy domain transfers might have
made sense a few years ago, but now there are some major stakeholders
which will simply put DENIC out of the loop if the DENIC processes
can't guarantee stable delegations, for whatever reason.