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Message-ID: <4194F07A.7050706@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com> From: hescominsoon at emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com (William Warren) Subject: IE is just as safe as FireFox not to mention the hundreds or thousands of pairs of eyes both helpful and harmful that look at the mozilla project's codebase. Todd Towles wrote: > He can buy a product..or do a super fast rollout of SP2..but why should > he? Microsoft should write better products...period. Everytime a Firefox > exploit comes out..there is already a fix...is that magic? No..it is > good coding... > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com >>[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of >>Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider >>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:09 AM >>To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; Colin.Scott@...lc.com >>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox >> >>If you do have 14000 machines why don't you buy "Finjan's >>Vital Security For Web"? >>It will filter all malicious I.E exploits for all its >>surfers(its a proxy, quite fast...) >> >>Or just use SUS(system update server (microsoft)) just like >>any other administrator... to install sp2 or to just replace >>the c:\windows\system32\shdocvw.dll with the patched one or >>with sp2 one... >> >>Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider >>Security Consultant >>Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC) >>Finjan Software LTD >>E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com >>--------------------------------- >>Prevention is the best cure! >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <Colin.Scott@...lc.com> >>To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com> >>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:46 PM >>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox >> >> >>Oh yeah, I've got 14,000 Windows 2000 machines to update to >>windows XP SP2, >>hang on wheres that CD? >> >>So thanks for your infinate wisdom there Rafel. >> >>Colin. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Rafel Ivgi, >>The-Insider" >><theinsider@....n To >>et.il> <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com> >>Sent by: cc >>full-disclosure-a >>dmin@...ts.netsys Subject >>.com Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as >>safe as FireFox >>12/11/2004 06:44 >> >> >> >>That is incorrect, there is a fix --> SP2. >>Users should use the latest updated system, meaning if there >>is an SP2, >>they >>should install it. >> >> >>Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider >>Security Consultant >>Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC) >>Finjan Software LTD >>E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com >>--------------------------------- >>Prevention is the best cure! >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Martin Mkrtchian" <dotsecure@...il.com> >>To: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles@...okshires.com> >>Cc: "Mailing List - Full-Disclosure" >><full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>; >><ring-of-fire@...oogroups.com> >>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:03 AM >>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox >> >> >> >>>They should've at least released that statement after they >> >>fixed the >> >>>IE FRAME vulnerability. 0 day exploit is in the wild and no fix for >>>it, yet they claim its secure enough. >>> >>>If the programmers are as smart as the company press >> >>releasers, I can >> >>>see why I.E. still sux. >>> >>> >>>Martin >>> >>> >>>On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:20 -0600, Todd Towles >>><toddtowles@...okshires.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Microsoft's security and mangement product manager (Ben English) >> >>says... >> >>>>At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on >> >>Thursday, Ben English, >> >>>>Microsoft's security and management product manager, told >> >>attendees >>that >> >>>>IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews" and is no less >> >>secure than any >> >>>>other browser. >>>> >>>>"Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more about it, >> >>but I don't >> >>>>think that Internet Explorer is any less secure than any >> >>other browser >> >>>>out there," English said. >>>> >>>> >> >>http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/ >>2100-1032_ >> >>>> 3-5448719.html?part=dht&tag=ntop&tag=nl.e433 >>>> >>>>Can anyone say IFRAME? Lol >>>> >>>>-Todd >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>>Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >>************************************************************** >>************************ >> >>This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged >>information. If you >>are not the addressee or if you have received the e-mail in >>error, it may >>be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or >>otherwise use the >>information which it contains. 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