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From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: IE is just as safe as FireFox

He can buy a product..or do a super fast rollout of SP2..but why should
he? Microsoft should write better products...period. Everytime a Firefox
exploit comes out..there is already a fix...is that magic? No..it is
good coding... 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:09 AM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; Colin.Scott@...lc.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
> 
> If you do have 14000 machines why don't you buy "Finjan's 
> Vital Security For Web"?
> It will filter all malicious I.E exploits for all its 
> surfers(its a proxy, quite fast...)
> 
> Or just use SUS(system update server (microsoft)) just like 
> any other administrator... to install sp2 or to just replace 
> the c:\windows\system32\shdocvw.dll with the patched one or 
> with sp2 one...
> 
> Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
> Security Consultant
> Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
> Finjan Software LTD
> E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com
> ---------------------------------
> Prevention is the best cure!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Colin.Scott@...lc.com>
> To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
> 
> 
> Oh yeah, I've got 14,000 Windows 2000 machines to update to 
> windows XP SP2,
> hang on wheres that CD?
> 
> So thanks for your infinate wisdom there Rafel.
> 
> Colin.
> 
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>             "Rafel Ivgi, 
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> dmin@...ts.netsys                                     Subject 
> .com                      Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as 
> safe as FireFox 
> 12/11/2004 06:44
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> 
> 
> That is incorrect, there is a fix --> SP2.
> Users  should use the latest updated system, meaning if there 
> is an SP2,
> they
> should install it.
> 
> 
> Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
> Security  Consultant
> Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
> Finjan Software  LTD
> E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com
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> Prevention  is the best cure!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Mkrtchian"  <dotsecure@...il.com>
> To: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles@...okshires.com>
> Cc: "Mailing List -  Full-Disclosure" 
> <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>;
> <ring-of-fire@...oogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday,  November 12, 2004 3:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe  as FireFox
> 
> 
> > They should've at least released that statement after  they 
> fixed the
> > IE FRAME vulnerability. 0 day exploit is in the wild and  no fix for
> > it, yet they claim its secure enough.
> >
> > If the  programmers are as smart as the company press 
> releasers, I can
> > see   why I.E. still sux.
> >
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > On  Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:20 -0600, Todd Towles
> > <toddtowles@...okshires.com> wrote:
> >> Microsoft's  security and mangement product manager (Ben English)
> says...
> >>
> >> At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on  
> Thursday, Ben English,
> >> Microsoft's security and management product  manager, told 
> attendees
> that
> >> IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews"  and is no less 
> secure than any
> >> other  browser.
> >>
> >> "Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more  about it, 
> but I don't
> >> think that Internet Explorer is any less  secure than any 
> other browser
> >> out there," English  said.
> >>
> >> 
> http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/
> 2100-1032_
> >>  3-5448719.html?part=dht&tag=ntop&tag=nl.e433
> >>
> >> Can  anyone say IFRAME? Lol
> >>
> >> -Todd
> >>
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