Message-ID: <9E97F0997FB84D42B221B9FB203EFA273F33C0@dc1ms2.msad.brookshires.net>
From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: controversial shadowcrew site hacked by secret service?

The DOJ and Secret Service arrested the people running the site.
Therefore the domain name has been passed to another person (a friend
maybe) to control or the government took it over as part of the case.
Either way it wasn't "hacked" and it really doesn't matter... If it
government has anyting to do with it, it is simply a redirect. So DOJ
employees can't have a sense of humor?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of 
> josh abbott
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:21 PM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] controversial shadowcrew site 
> hacked by secret service?
> 
> this stuff is totally real to the max. my cousin's former 
> roomate's neighbor's uncle jessie once worked for the secret 
> service and he told me it's completely standard protocol to 
> have the mission impossible theme in the background. also the 
> <strike> tag is used exclusively by the secret service.
> 
> > From: "Curt Purdy" <purdy@...man.com>
> > To: "'Insecure'" <insecure@...ritech.net>, "'Danny'" 
> > <nocmonkey@...il.com>
> > Cc: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] controversial shadowcrew 
> site hacked by
> secret service?
> > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 04:23:52 -0600
> >
> > Danny wrote:
> > > >The Secret Service, or any other government enforcement agency 
> > > >would not condone, promote, or participate in website defacement
> > > activities.
> > > >I know some of you have little faith in these agencies, but,
> > > one thing
> > > >is for sure, they would never stoop this low.
> >
> > Insecure replied:
> > > Even when the Secret Service admits that they took over 
> the site and 
> > > put up their own page, you don't believe it?
> > >
> > > Must be nice to have such blind faith in the integrity of your 
> > > government "enforcement" agencies.
> > >
> >
> > Duh...
> >
> > I don't know whether it's you folks who doomed us to 
> another 4 years 
> > of
> hell
> > trying to justify your own blind faith or what, but it's 
> time you all 
> > woke up to reality.  Good Morning America!  Our government 
> is no more 
> > (as) ethical as any other country.  Whether it is our 
> agents murdering 
> > a South American dictator we don't happen to like, or our agents 
> > defacing a cracker's site, it happens.  Obviously you slept through 
> > the weeks of cyberwar our (paid) hackers fought with China's (paid) 
> > hackers after they downed our jet a while back.  It was China who 
> > finally called a truce in their official press.
> >
> > Sorry to give you people the bad news, but Bambi died a while ago.  
> > It's
> the
> > wild west in 1800 and there is no law.  If you want to survive, you 
> > better have a hired gun and we go for $300/hour these days. 
>  At least 
> > those of us who have met the black hat on main street at 50 
> paces at 
> > high noon and walked away to tell about it.
> >
> > Curt Purdy CISSP, GSEC, MCSE+I, CNE, CCDA Information Security 
> > Engineer DP Solutions
> >
> > -----------------------------
> >
> > If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked.
> > What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
> > -- former White House cybersecurity zar Richard Clarke
> >
> 
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