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Message-ID: <9E97F0997FB84D42B221B9FB203EFA273F33C2@dc1ms2.msad.brookshires.net>
From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: WiFi question

I would have to agree with GuidoZ. The changing MAC would point to
something being up. AP using different channels is pretty common in some
models but the MAC changing and being different vendors points to fake
AP.

I bet you 10 bucks the WEP key changes on all but one of them each time
too..lol  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of GuidoZ
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:42 PM
> To: colin.scott@...lc.com
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] WiFi question
> 
> I'm not 100% on this, as it could be something I've never 
> heard of (of course). However, it sounds a lot like someone 
> is playing with
> "FakeAP":
>  - http://www.blackalchemy.to/project/fakeap/
> 
> It's not real difficult to setup and only requires a Prisim 
> chipset card (one or more) and a compatible Linux distro. 
> It's been around for over 2 years, but hasn't been touched 
> for about the same amount of time. See the site for more.
> 
> --
> Peace. ~G
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:53:07 +0000, colin.scott@...lc.com 
> <colin.scott@...lc.com> wrote:
> > List,
> > 
> > I'm an expert in nothing so when I saw this I had to ask, 
> as Im sure 
> > theres someone out there that is a WiFi expert.
> > 
> > Google has found no answer so here goes.
> > 
> > Last night we saw a new access point appear. No problems 
> its an ad-hoc 
> > network so its someone's machine with XP on configured for 
> their home 
> > W-LAN probably.  Running Netstumbler shows more on it though.
> > 
> > You get 2 Access Points showing this ESSID for a few 
> seconds. Then you 
> > get a 3rd, then a 4rth. Then the first two drop off, this 
> repeats forever.
> > Always using a different MAC address when a new AP appears. The APs 
> > are all WEP enabled (which I cant crack cos I dont have the 
> savvy or 
> > the tools :) ) and this goes on forever.
> > 
> > The MACs are all from different pools (i.e. assigned to different
> > manufacturers) so the only conclusion is that they are all 
> spoofed MACs.
> > 
> > I have walked around the office and as far as I can tell its coming 
> > from this office (the IT dept), basing that assumption on 
> signal strength.
> > 
> > Anyone seen any tools that do this?   I would love a little 
> hand-held
> > gadget that would help me find it (like the scanner in Alien!)
> > 
> > Answers on a post card :)
> > 
> > Colin.
> > 
> > 
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