full-disclosure - I'm calling for LycosEU heads and team to resign or be sacked

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Message-ID: <001b01c4d9a3$a71b0900$35891518@zephyr>
From: micah at style.net (Micah McNelly)
Subject: I'm calling for LycosEU heads and team to resign or be sacked

> And if the spammers don't like my packets being sent to their system,
> all they have to do is send me a polite e-mail asking to be removed
> from my flood-list. It is really quite simple!

Wow.  Obviously you are not responsible for authorizing payment to transit
providers and have no idea how much bandwidth actually might cost an
organization on a perMonth/perMeg basis.  This would have never had any
SERIOUS effect on backbone providers but many of their customers who don't
even KNOW they  have someone generating spam from their network would
unfortunately see a great deal of money lost.

Why don't you go physically assault a spammer.  Do you physically assault
door-to-door solicitors or do you have a sign on your front porch.

Obviously spam costs all of us $ in some form or another but incurring
rapidly generated expenses for non-responsible parties to me seems a bit
cruel.  Do you assault the mailman for delivering junkmail that companies
actually pay the USPS to deliver?

/m

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Smith" <tatercrispies@...il.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] I'm calling for LycosEU heads and team to
resign or be sacked


> > I think heads should roll over this. I think its the worst act a
corporation has ever undertaken in the history of the internet.
>
> So speaketh n3td3v, prohpet, visionary, lord and leader of Full
Disclosure.
>
> The Internet has always been about vigilante justice. Aside from
> exceptionally egregious cases of wrongdoing, like sexually explicit
> material with children, fraud, or flagrant piracy, the Internet exists
> and operates beyond the boundaries of any one nation's laws. It is up
> to the people to self regulate.
>
> We have tried politely reasoning with spammers, we have tried ignoring
> spammers, we have tried _suing_ spammers. We've leisurely worked our
> way down the tree and are well past any sort of rational recourse. Now
> people are willing to resort to brute retaliation.
>
> When you sign on to the Internet, you accept this implicitly, to some
> degree or another.  If you screw up, people will blackhole you, flood
> you, or isolate you. Spammers have been  lapping us in the face for
> too long, and now the Internet reacts and fights back.
>
> Everyone who downloaded that screensaver did so intentionally, this
> wasn't a trojan operating behind the scenes. The participants were
> willing combatants. The engine for the battle happened to come from
> Lycos this time, but there have been other efforts in the past as
> well.
>
> And if the spammers don't like my packets being sent to their system,
> all they have to do is send me a polite e-mail asking to be removed
> from my flood-list. It is really quite simple!
>
> -Taters
>
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