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Message-ID: <430E6DA8.50205@logicaldevelopments.com.au>
Date: Fri Aug 26 02:18:07 2005
From: jallen at logicaldevelopments.com.au (Justin Allen)
Subject: talk.google.com

>From what I have read it seems that Google can only collect personal
information after asking you, as they say in this sentence:  "When we
require personally identifying information, we will inform you about the
types of information we collect and how we use it."

I suggest you read Google's Privacy Policy[1] properly before making any
more accusations

[1] http://www.google.com/privacy.html

Technica Forensis wrote:

>>I don't understand the big fuss over google talk.
>>    
>>
>
>I think the fuss has to do with the 'Privacy' paragraph in the terms of service:
>"You agree that Google may access or disclose your personal
>information, including the content of your communications" and
>"Personal information collected by Google may be stored and processed
>in the United States or any other country in which Google Inc. or its
>agents maintain facilities"
>
>Google itself is located in 11 locations in U.S. and:
>Dublin, Ireland
>London & Manchester, UK
>Sydney, Australia
>Toronto & Ontario, Canada
>Copenhagen, Denmark
>Paris, France
>Hamburg, Germany
>Bangalore & Hyderabad, India
>Milano, Italy
>Tokyo, Japan
>Amsterdam, Netherlands
>Madrid, Spain 
>Stockholm, Sweden
>
>So, anything I say over gTalk will be stored and can be retreived by
>any of these countries.
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Justin Allen
Software Developer
Logical Developments
Phone: +61 8 9458 3889
		


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Could you please state where it says: "You agree that Google may access
or disclose your personal information, including the content of your
communications" in the privacy policy?<br>
<br>
>From what I have read it seems that Google can only collect personal
information after asking you, as they say in this sentence:&nbsp; "When we
require personally identifying information, we will inform you about
the types of information we collect and how we use it."<br>
<br>
I suggest you read Google's Privacy Policy[1] properly before making
any more accusations<br>
<br>
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.google.com/privacy.html">http://www.google.com/privacy.html</a><br>
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Technica Forensis wrote:
<blockquote cite="mida5e4c830508251757103f8142@...l.gmail.com"
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    <pre wrap="">I don't understand the big fuss over google talk.
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
I think the fuss has to do with the 'Privacy' paragraph in the terms of service:
"You agree that Google may access or disclose your personal
information, including the content of your communications" and
"Personal information collected by Google may be stored and processed
in the United States or any other country in which Google Inc. or its
agents maintain facilities"

Google itself is located in 11 locations in U.S. and:
Dublin, Ireland
London &amp; Manchester, UK
Sydney, Australia
Toronto &amp; Ontario, Canada
Copenhagen, Denmark
Paris, France
Hamburg, Germany
Bangalore &amp; Hyderabad, India
Milano, Italy
Tokyo, Japan
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Madrid, Spain 
Stockholm, Sweden

So, anything I say over gTalk will be stored and can be retreived by
any of these countries.
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