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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0509271807270.30910-100000@kegger.national-security.net>
Date: Wed Sep 28 02:37:54 2005
From: fd at ew.nsci.us (fd@...nsci.us)
Subject: CORE-Impact license bypass

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Bernhard Mueller wrote:

> Exibar wrote:
> >       I didn't mean to imply that the consultants create their own exploits,
> > not many I know could even begin to do that, only a couple are talented
> > enough to do just that.  Even for those very few, it's just not feasable
> > from a time perspective.  Much quick and cost effective to use what's out
> > there.
> > 
> 
> so what use is a pentest if the consultant isn't even talented enough to
> find / create exploits for unknown vulnerabilities?
> any average admin can install and run an automatic security scanner.
> furthermore, a common nessus report contains 99% useless garbage. and
> most of the time, you can not apply generic exploits like these from
> metasploit to a specific customer situation.

It should also be noted that many security flaws in Customer networks are
in design and therefore implementation.  The real issue comes down to
client-side security.  Most pentests are are trivial after an attack from
Eve, even if the first person she emails in the organization sees through
it ...


X-From: Eve
From: Bob

Hi Alice!  

Can you get me a quote for the parts we need in the attached spreadsheet?

Thank you!

-Bob

<<Attachment:parts.xls.exe>>


--Eric

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