lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date: Mon Oct  3 17:54:52 2005
From: michealespinola at gmail.com (Micheal Espinola Jr)
Subject: Bigger burger roll needed

err, But Steve's conclusion is consistent with my own...

On 10/3/05, Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespinola@...il.com> wrote:
> Bruce, I don't think you are going to find hard "evidence" for either
> conclusion.  But Bruce's conclusion is consistent with my own
> experiences, and that of many other Administrators that I discuss
> issues like this with.
>
> Since its inception, supporting NT 3.0 beta and onward, I have been
> dealing with BSOD's.  In total, there have been comparatively very few
> times were it was a direct fault of MS code.  It has very commonly
> been in relation to 3rd party drivers that needed reworking or
> updating by the 3rd-party manufacturer.
>
> This is not PR spin (of which I don't think you could find any
> published PR spin for either side of this argument either).  This is
> real world experience with the NT+ products across i386 and Alpha
> hardware platforms using peripheral devices from many different major
> manufactures.  There are admins on both sides of the anti-MS fence
> that I communicate with that would agree with this conclusion.
>
>
>
> On 10/3/05, Bruce Ediger <eballen1@...st.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Steve Friedl wrote:
> >
> > > The majority of BSODs are caused by buggy third-party drivers and malware
> > > (rootkits, etc.) Is that part of "Microsoft's monopolistic abuse"?
> >
> > Does any kind of evidence (apart from PR-flack-based spin) exist for this
> > conclusion?
> >
> > Can you point me to it?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Bruce Ediger
> > _______________________________________________
> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
> >
>
>
> --
> ME2  <http://www.santeriasys.net/>
>


--
ME2  <http://www.santeriasys.net/>

Powered by blists - more mailing lists