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Date: Tue Dec  6 18:12:47 2005
From: andre.ludwig at gmail.com (Andre Ludwig)
Subject: [lists] Re: IT security professionals in demand
	in 2006

Well my CISSP, got me a date with angelina jolie...

So there!

On a more serious note, as previous posters have mentioned, it does
have its place. The CISSP in particular SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A
MEASURE OF TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE, SKILL, OR UB3R L33TN3SS!!!

Did i learn from studying for it? Yupo, all about FM200, nozzle
placement, and bidness nonsense (who needs bidness when you can
h4x0rz?).  Anyways certifications have their place in this world, it
is just up to everyone to see them for what they are.  A SHEET OF
PAPER

Andre

This
On 12/6/05, InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh@...il.com> wrote:
> I've got one with no CISSP
>
> On 12/5/05, Curt Purdy <purdy@...man.com> wrote:
> >
> > Jeff Wilder sent:
> > > Not to validate the cissp... but try to get a good security
> > > job with out it.
> >
> > I agree Jeff, for some reason it is considered the gold standard, though not
> > sure why.  Never took a class, studied a single book for a week and knocked
> > it out in half the 6-hour time period.  The SANS GIAC certs were much more
> > technical and absolutely required the classes.
> >
> > I describe the CISSP as a river a mile wide and 6 inches deep, and the SANS
> > certs as a hundred yards wide and 30 feet deep.
> >
> > If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked.
> > What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
> > -- former White House cybersecurity czar Richard Clarke
> >
> > Curt Purdy CISSP, GSNA, GSEC, CNE, MCSE+I, CCDA
> > Information Security Officer
> >
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