full-disclosure - to start a career in security is ccsp(ciscocertified security professional) good enough?

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Message-ID: <001101c5fb4e$d6f1f850$c864a8c0@dopehead>
Date: Wed Dec  7 16:54:03 2005
From: jan at boyakasha.dk (Jan Nielsen)
Subject: to start a career in security is
	ccsp(ciscocertified security professional) good enough?

CCSP is a decent place to start, you could take some of the courses and
not just the exams, that will get you nowhere I think (technically),
other than just getting the certification, try and get your hands dirty
first, I personally spent 4 or 5 years in the industry doing security
related setups, firewalls, ids, vpn, hips and so on before going to take
the CCSP, and I only did it so my company could achieve Cisco Gold
Partner Status, and not really to be able to use it in a technical
manner, since I already knew the stuff covered in most of the tests.
Also remember, that since this is a Cisco certification, a lot of the
stuff will be cisco related and specific and some of the basics of
vpn/ids/firewalling will apply to many different vendors products. I
feel that CISSP is not really the same "track" as CCSP, it has more todo
with security practice and overview, methods of analyzing and
identifying security issues rather than actual configuration of security
equipment.

Just my 2 cents
Regards
Jan

-----Original Message-----
From: boyakash@...goodydomains.com [mailto:boyakash@...goodydomains.com]
On Behalf Of Joel Jose
Sent: 7. december 2005 04:03
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] to start a career in security is
ccsp(ciscocertified security professional) good enough?

i am a undergraduate student. will get a btech ie BS in computer science
degree in 2007. to start a path in security is ccsp good enough? the
more advanced ones like cissp either need experience or are just too
expensive... those certifications can come along the way.. but to start
a career is ccsp ok?... most others dont have the learning centers in
india. i hope that a ccsp will land me a job after graduation.. like a
part time. AND  i can pursue my ms in artificial intelligence... so i
will be a security professional as well as an ai practitioner.. i have
interest in both.....i plan to settle abroad.. may be usa or eu.... 
-- 
As soon as men decide that all means are permitted to fight an
evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil
that they set out to daestroy.
                      - Christopher Dawson, The Judgment of Nations 
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