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Message-ID: <24D40C4A-F8DF-4754-989F-51791B8EE09F@jcpa.com>
Date: Mon Dec 19 05:32:11 2005
From: jpole at jcpa.com (Jamie C. Pole)
Subject: [Clips] A small editorial about
	recentevents.(fwd)


I'm not apologizing for anything - those are the facts.  The way the  
response to the disaster was handled was very unfortunate, but you  
can't honestly believe that it was the President's fault??

Would you have preferred that Federal soldiers invade Louisiana to  
bypass the inept state government?  That would just have given the  
liberals something else to whine about.  Nevermind that they would be  
alive - the Federal government BROKE THE LAW!

Perhaps you can explain why Louisiana state officials blocked 2 Red  
Cross convoys carrying relief supplies from entering New Orleans?

Jamie


On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:23 PM, J.A. Terranson wrote:

>
> Sing that song of apologia!!!
>
>
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Jamie C. Pole wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:07:23 -0600
>> From: Jamie C. Pole <jpole@...a.com>
>> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about
>>     recentevents.(fwd)
>>
>>
>> Our Federal government cannot enter a disaster area unless invited by
>> the governor of the state.  In the case of Katrina, the governor was
>> more concerned with getting re-elected than she was with saving her
>> constituents.  Her recently-disclosed email messages prove this.
>> Also, the mayor ordered a mandatory evacuation (when it was too late
>> to enforce), but most people didn't leave.  If you place yourself in
>> harms way, is it the government's responsibility to extricate you?
>>
>> The head of FEMA was a bonehead, but that problem has been fixed.
>> Are you now going to tell me that the US Army Corps of Engineers went
>> into New Orleans to blow holes in the levees?  Or maybe we caused
>> hurricane Katrina with our special nuclear-powered hurricane- 
>> generators?
>>
>> Just checking...
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2005, at 10:56 PM, GroundZero Security wrote:
>>
>>>> lol you mean the RAF stuff ? that was ages ago and we learned from
>>>> that. or in the 70s at olympia.
>>>> sure that was bad since we didnt even have special forces as we
>>>> werent used to terrorists or war anymore
>>>> we usually dont bother about such things. usa is mainly focused on
>>>> war industry though
>>>
>>> ok sorry i didnt finish this. i didn't have much sleep last night
>>> so execuse me please.
>>>
>>> what i missed is that we didnt have special forces but we have some
>>> now. and i'm very confident they would do a good job.
>>> also if we have a disaster we dont have to wait 6 days for help to
>>> arrive i trust my gov on that. i feel pretty save also "if"
>>> a terrorist attack would happen we surely would not invade a
>>> country. unless that countries gov is attacking us.
>>>
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>
> -- 
> Yours,
>
> J.A. Terranson
> sysadmin@....org
> 0xBD4A95BF
>
>
> 	Just once, can't we have a nice polite discussion about
> 	the logistics and planning side of large criminal enterprise?
>
> 	- Steve Thompson
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