full-disclosure - [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd)

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Message-ID: <1134983147.4502.77.camel@prodigy.Kimera>
Date: Mon Dec 19 09:05:51 2005
From: dbarroso at s21sec.com (David Barroso)
Subject: [Clips] A small editorial about recent
	events. (fwd)

Hey Jamie,
perhaps it is true that you have lived in 24 countries, but saying that
Spain is worse than US, or simply compare Spain to Singapore or Russia
in terms of "democracy" denotes a total lack of information about
anything that is outside the US.

On dom, 2005-12-18 at 22:55 -0600, Jamie C. Pole wrote:
> Well, some of the more recent ones were as follows:
> 
> 1) Singapore, where the Immigration card has "Drug Traffickers will  
> be put to death" in big red letters on the back.  When I was there,  
> possession of chewing gum was also illegal, and categorized as a  
> controlled substance.  By the way, you can be fined or jailed for  
> having a pool of standing water where mosquitos might breed.
> 
> 2) Russia, where the militia (like city-wide police - not Federal)  
> routinely beat and torture innocent suspects regardless of the  
> severity of their supposed crimes.  These same militia officers often  
> pull over expensive cars in order to get the drivers to bribe them  
> into not giving them a ticket for something they didn't even do.
> 
> 3) Spain, where a Federal government investigator contested some of  
> my forensic findings by stating "Si no existe la evidencia, la  
> haremos para arriba. Cualquier manera, ?l es culpable." (Roughly,  
> "Even if the evidence does not exist, we will make it up.  He is  
> going to be found guilty either way.").  When the case went to court,  
> that is exactly what they did.
> 
> There have been quite a few others, but those are some highlights...
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> On Dec 18, 2005, at 10:41 PM, Dude VanWinkle wrote:
> >
> >
> > Which other countries have you lived in? What was your experience
> > there that made you feel this way?
> 
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