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Message-ID: <43A8863C.6090800@sdf.lonestar.org>
Date: Tue Dec 20 22:31:43 2005
From: bkfsec at sdf.lonestar.org (bkfsec)
Subject: An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread
	...	America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread

Chris Umphress wrote:

>
>I suppose I could argue on either side of that fence. In my mind,
>Abraham was there early, so the Israelites were re-claiming their
>land. Interesting viewpoint, though.
>
>  
>
I had to respond to this...

Stating that it's because Abraham was "there" so long ago and thus the 
modern-day Israelites have a right to it is utter bullshit of the lowest 
order.

I'm part Native American.  You don't see me kicking people off of my 
ancestral land.  And the clear difference in this case is that I can 
actually prove that it was mine before it was yours.  Modern day 
Israelites don't have that luxury and, in fact, if you traced back the 
family trees, I dare say that a large percentage (99%) would be unable 
to trace their way to Abraham even if they could go back that far.

And you know what?  I know that some stupid jackass is going to call me 
an antisemite because I made the statement that their fictitious claim 
to the land was wrong.  And I really don't care.  I have no problem with 
the concept of Israel.  What I have a problem with is some pathetic fuck 
thinking thing 6,000 years ago, someone gave him the right to not share 
the land with other people.  That those same pathetic fucks thought it 
was a good idea to displace a group of people who had lived on the land 
for a LONG time because of what amounts to a political handout.  The 
irony is that many of the people that we now refer to as Palestinians 
wallow on land that is devoid of resources.  One of the biggest issues 
plaguing that region is resource distribution.  The land that became 
Israel was rich with certain resources that the Palestinian lands have 
less of. 

How many Palestinians have died in poverty because of this one issue?  
Why must the Jews be content to create their own holocaust of neglect in 
the desert?  I happen to think that a Jewish homeland is a good idea.  
But why do people have to die for it?

And the more general cry of Why the hell can't people just learn to get 
along together rather than being assholes to one another?

Look, there's no innocent party to this particular conflict, but some 
groups of people are getting shafted.  Claiming land deeds you can't 
prove does no one any good.

             -bkfsec