full-disclosure - Spy Agency Mined Vast Data Trove

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Message-ID: <20051228142039.GE21359@suespammers.org>
Date: Wed Dec 28 14:19:59 2005
From: rodrigob at suespammers.org (Rodrigo Barbosa)
Subject: Spy Agency Mined Vast Data Trove

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On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 07:59:10AM -0600, Leif Ericksen wrote:
> Actually after reading some of the the comments I have to say you all
> missed the point...  *IF* you are not doing *nothing illegal* and have
> nothing to hide no big deal.

Talk about missing the point ...

> "I do not want the Government to see my banking info"
> HUM, did you ever hear of the SSN?  Are you putting massive amounts of
> cash that can not be accounted for into your bank?  BUT wait what is the
> limit it used to be $10,000US that if you moved that much money you had
> to fill out some papers as to why you were moving that money.  So the
> government will know.

Lemme try explaining it to you using more words.

Do I want the USA Government to see my brazilian banking information,
considering I'm a brazilian citizen that might be traveling to 
Canada ? Including my PIN and password and such other stuff ?

The point is that the NSA (et al) can't know beforehand if the
trafic they are monitoring is something they are allowed to monitor,
so they have to check it all. What right, or even reason, do they 
have to monitor banking traffic originated in Canada with Brazil as
the destination ?

> Again, if all you actions are legit they will soon go away and leave you
> alone. 

Yes, in a perfect world, run by perfect law abiding people, which is
not the case of ANY government, or even any institution. Unfortuntely,
on the world we live in, powers are more often abused than not.

> I will admit this...  I live in a state where we have an electronic
> device in our car that is used on the tollway that pays your fees for
> being on the road.  

We have those around here too, but you can choose not to use it, and pay
in cash at the booth. It is a PITA not using it, but you have a choice.

- -- 
Rodrigo Barbosa <rodrigob@...spammers.org>
"Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur"
"Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)

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